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    This Grebe was enjoying the lake along with a few ducks and Swamphens. Edited in acr and PS as well as some distractions in the water removed.
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    Nice grebe, I like the yellow. the bird is a bit soft and grainy on my screen... I wish the water was all blue

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    Thanks Arash. Looks sharp to me on the head/neck area, which I was aiming for, but the grain may be due to the large crop needed. More nr on the bird maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Burdett View Post
    Thanks Arash. Looks sharp to me on the head/neck area, which I was aiming for, but the grain may be due to the large crop needed. More nr on the bird maybe?
    it doesn't look tack sharp to my eye, let see what other say. might just be me :)

    you could run more NR but it will make it even softer, depends on how noisy the RAW is. did you have to lift the exposure?
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    I wont say image is tack sharp, sharp enough for some and not for me. I am on the borderline of Yes/No :-)

    I like the water colors. I would clean up the foreground - remove the spots in the foreground.

    My Experience is NR on Grebes is always Tricky. I like the yellow on the birds. Bird looks cool.

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    Paul looks like our Grebes till you get to the neck. I agree head and neck is soft. Boy that yellow really pops TFS.

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    I agree about sharpening the head and neck a little. lovely pose you captured. I would also try desaturating the whole image slightly.

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    What a neat looking grebe. Yes to some more sharpening.

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    Yes, I did lift the exposure a little. Points noted however...cheers.
    Thank you to all for the feedback and suggestions too.

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    Perfect eye contact, and the position in the frame is perfect with the full reflection included. I agree the image isn't perfectly sharp. Why f/8 when you had f/5.6? Wider aperture and lower angle would make for
    a better isolated subject and more dramatic image.

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    Hi Dorian. Thank you for the feedback. I'm a little confused, I used f8 as I wanted more of the Grebe in focus, sharper and more dof. How would f5.6 give a more isolated subject in this case as the BG is just water. I agree re getting lower however. Am I missing something here with the aperture?

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    A nice inquisitive pose and yes to a bit. crunchy. I think that reducing the contrast a bit might improve it.

    Here is what you are missing with regards to. d-o-f: you stated that this was a relatively large crop. That meant that you were a good distance from the bird, let's say 40 feet. At that distance at f/5.6 you would have had just about 6 inches od sharp focus in front of the bird and 6 inches behind the bird. That is way, way more than you needed to cover. the bird. So Dorian was suggesting that you would have been much better off at 1/1600 sec. at f/5.6 than at 1/800 sec. at f/8. See my comments on d-o-f on the blog for forever :)

    Here is another way of looking at this: with your gear, you have wide open aperture viewing; no matter what aperture you set, you are viewing the image at f/5.6. If the whole bird looks sharp through the viewfinder, there is no need to stop! down!

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    Hi Artie. Thanks so much for the feedback and info. It now makes sense to me, especially the "no matter what aperture you set, you are viewing the image at f/5.6" you stated. I'd almost forgotten about the dof preview button that shows the "actual" dof. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Burdett View Post
    Hi Artie. Thanks so much for the feedback and info. It now makes sense to me, especially the "no matter what aperture you set, you are viewing the image at f/5.6" you stated. I'd almost forgotten about the dof preview button that shows the "actual" dof. Cheers!
    If you had pressed the d-o-f button the bird would have been unchanged. Only a bit more of the water in front of and behind the bird would have been sharper ...

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    ps: In 36 years I have pretty much never used the preview button for any type of photography (much less birds ... :)
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