Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Australasian Grebe

  1. #1
    BPN Member Paul Burdett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
    Posts
    998
    Threads
    169
    Thank You Posts

    Default Australasian Grebe

    Attached Images Attached Images
     
    This Grebe was enjoying the lake along with a few ducks and Swamphens. Edited in acr and PS as well as some distractions in the water removed.
    Canon 7Dii, 100-400@400mm, 1/800th sec, f8, iso400, AV mode, HH. Cheers.

  2. #2
    Super Moderator arash_hazeghi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    San Francisco, California, United States
    Posts
    16,968
    Threads
    1,162
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Nice grebe, I like the yellow. the bird is a bit soft and grainy on my screen... I wish the water was all blue

    TFS
    New! Nikon Capture One Pro Guide
    http://www.arihazeghiphotography.com/Guides/


    ------------------------------------------------
    Visit my blog
    http://www.arihazeghiphotography.com/blog

  3. #3
    BPN Member Paul Burdett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
    Posts
    998
    Threads
    169
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Thanks Arash. Looks sharp to me on the head/neck area, which I was aiming for, but the grain may be due to the large crop needed. More nr on the bird maybe?

  4. #4
    Super Moderator arash_hazeghi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    San Francisco, California, United States
    Posts
    16,968
    Threads
    1,162
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Burdett View Post
    Thanks Arash. Looks sharp to me on the head/neck area, which I was aiming for, but the grain may be due to the large crop needed. More nr on the bird maybe?
    it doesn't look tack sharp to my eye, let see what other say. might just be me :)

    you could run more NR but it will make it even softer, depends on how noisy the RAW is. did you have to lift the exposure?
    New! Nikon Capture One Pro Guide
    http://www.arihazeghiphotography.com/Guides/


    ------------------------------------------------
    Visit my blog
    http://www.arihazeghiphotography.com/blog

  5. #5
    Krishna Prasad Kotti Krishna Prasad kotti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Lehi, Utah
    Posts
    2,175
    Threads
    406
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    I wont say image is tack sharp, sharp enough for some and not for me. I am on the borderline of Yes/No :-)

    I like the water colors. I would clean up the foreground - remove the spots in the foreground.

    My Experience is NR on Grebes is always Tricky. I like the yellow on the birds. Bird looks cool.

    TFS
    https://krishnakotti.smugmug.com/

    Arise! Awake! and stop not until the goal is reached.
    -- Swami Vivekananda

  6. #6
    BPN Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Waynesville, Ohio, United States
    Posts
    571
    Threads
    105
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Paul looks like our Grebes till you get to the neck. I agree head and neck is soft. Boy that yellow really pops TFS.

  7. #7
    BPN Member William Dickson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Fife, Scotland
    Posts
    5,975
    Threads
    842
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    I agree about sharpening the head and neck a little. lovely pose you captured. I would also try desaturating the whole image slightly.

    Will

  8. #8
    BPN Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Ithaca, NY
    Posts
    7,065
    Threads
    1,327
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    What a neat looking grebe. Yes to some more sharpening.

  9. #9
    BPN Member Paul Burdett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
    Posts
    998
    Threads
    169
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Yes, I did lift the exposure a little. Points noted however...cheers.
    Thank you to all for the feedback and suggestions too.

  10. #10
    BPN Member Dorian Anderson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Location
    San Mateo, CA
    Posts
    1,562
    Threads
    141
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Perfect eye contact, and the position in the frame is perfect with the full reflection included. I agree the image isn't perfectly sharp. Why f/8 when you had f/5.6? Wider aperture and lower angle would make for
    a better isolated subject and more dramatic image.

  11. #11
    BPN Member Paul Burdett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
    Posts
    998
    Threads
    169
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Hi Dorian. Thank you for the feedback. I'm a little confused, I used f8 as I wanted more of the Grebe in focus, sharper and more dof. How would f5.6 give a more isolated subject in this case as the BG is just water. I agree re getting lower however. Am I missing something here with the aperture?

  12. #12
    Publisher Arthur Morris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Indian Lake Estates, FL
    Posts
    30,409
    Threads
    1,341
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    A nice inquisitive pose and yes to a bit. crunchy. I think that reducing the contrast a bit might improve it.

    Here is what you are missing with regards to. d-o-f: you stated that this was a relatively large crop. That meant that you were a good distance from the bird, let's say 40 feet. At that distance at f/5.6 you would have had just about 6 inches od sharp focus in front of the bird and 6 inches behind the bird. That is way, way more than you needed to cover. the bird. So Dorian was suggesting that you would have been much better off at 1/1600 sec. at f/5.6 than at 1/800 sec. at f/8. See my comments on d-o-f on the blog for forever :)

    Here is another way of looking at this: with your gear, you have wide open aperture viewing; no matter what aperture you set, you are viewing the image at f/5.6. If the whole bird looks sharp through the viewfinder, there is no need to stop! down!

    with love, artie
    BIRDS AS ART Blog: great info and lessons, lots of images with our legendary BAA educational Captions.: we will not sell you junk. 30+ years of long lens experience/e-mail with gear questions.
    BIRDS AS ART Online Store: we will not sell you junk. 35 years of long lens experience. Please e-mail with gear questions.

    BIRDS AS ART Instructional Photo Tours (IPTs): Fort DeSoto, SEPT 2018. Bosque, DEC 2018. San Diego, JAN 2019

    E-mail me at samandmayasgrandpa@att.net for BPN member IPT discount info.










  13. #13
    BPN Member Paul Burdett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2018
    Location
    Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
    Posts
    998
    Threads
    169
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Hi Artie. Thanks so much for the feedback and info. It now makes sense to me, especially the "no matter what aperture you set, you are viewing the image at f/5.6" you stated. I'd almost forgotten about the dof preview button that shows the "actual" dof. Cheers!

  14. #14
    Publisher Arthur Morris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Indian Lake Estates, FL
    Posts
    30,409
    Threads
    1,341
    Thank You Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Burdett View Post
    Hi Artie. Thanks so much for the feedback and info. It now makes sense to me, especially the "no matter what aperture you set, you are viewing the image at f/5.6" you stated. I'd almost forgotten about the dof preview button that shows the "actual" dof. Cheers!
    If you had pressed the d-o-f button the bird would have been unchanged. Only a bit more of the water in front of and behind the bird would have been sharper ...

    YAW. with love, a

    ps: In 36 years I have pretty much never used the preview button for any type of photography (much less birds ... :)
    BIRDS AS ART Blog: great info and lessons, lots of images with our legendary BAA educational Captions.: we will not sell you junk. 30+ years of long lens experience/e-mail with gear questions.
    BIRDS AS ART Online Store: we will not sell you junk. 35 years of long lens experience. Please e-mail with gear questions.

    BIRDS AS ART Instructional Photo Tours (IPTs): Fort DeSoto, SEPT 2018. Bosque, DEC 2018. San Diego, JAN 2019

    E-mail me at samandmayasgrandpa@att.net for BPN member IPT discount info.










Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Web Analytics