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    Hello, this group of males was sitting in a meadow while hiking on the Oregon Coast

    Nikon D850
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    1/350
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    A-Priority
    Matrix Metering

    Your comments please...Terry Johnson

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    Dear Terry,

    Thank you so much for sharing this image in the Wildlife Forum, much appreciated! I would just like to remind you that in order to receive feedback from others you must comment on at least three to five images. Your comments do not have to be of a technical nature, you could just say what you like or dislike about an image

    It's nice to know that you are doing some hiking and looking for subjects to photograph and I am glad you came upon this bunch so unconcerned with your presence, they look content and sleepy. The pano works here but I am hoping you have more from this sighting, it would be lovely to see the surroundings. I am saying this because my personal feeling is that the frame lacks context to some extent. Since the subjects are motionless and expressionless due to their relaxed state, it would have been wonderful had you captured "the bigger picture", a wider scene that included the environment. It is rather unfortunate that none of the subjects were looking up, this would have provided a nice anchor for the viewer to concentrate upon.

    A couple of observations/ questions regarding techs: good thinking on DoF albeit SS was a bit low, especially since you were shooting without support - this has affected to some extent the clarity of your image. I think matrix metering was a good idea, but you do not mention what was the ISO value at the time?

    Light seems harsh and there are heavy shadows over the animals' faces. Some blue casts present in the darker areas but those you can deal with in processing. I would suggest you start afresh in LR and find the correct WB and lift the shadows a little - I notice you have great gear but not sure what software you are using? Maybe a good idea if in the future you could give us more information regarding your processing steps, this will help us give you more appropriate feedback.

    Once again, many thanks for participating in this Forum and I sincerely hope you come back with more images

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    Gabriela Plesea

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    Nice big bachelor group you have captured. I agree with Gabriela's critique.

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    Hello, I have tried to resubmit my image with changes, however, I am not able to do so.
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    I apologize. The images were displayed after I pressed 'Submit' The ISO was 200. I reprocessed in PhotoshopCC

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    Hi Terry, a nice shot with those antlers really 'sticking' out nicely. Agree with Gabriela's comments which are spot on regarding PP. The RP is better but the dried grass on top in RP can go.

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    Thank you Terry, and no problem about the resubmission. I must say the colours look much better in the RP.

    In terms of composition I feel this is still too tight, especially from the sides. I believe the RP is about full frame, so not much you can do right now. But just something to keep in mind in the future, any given image needs some kind of visual anchor to "grab" the viewer. Since those chaps are either looking away or taking a nap they aren't offering much, neither of them are making eye contact nor stand out in some way. As a group they could make more impact (as in "become the anchor") but IMO this only happens if you give the viewer enough context, as in "the bigger picture". Don't know what the scenery looked like but I would have walked around to find a more suitable angle with some vegetation in the background, some trees, maybe hills or a mountain in the BG, or a blue sky. Such elements would emphasise the subject of your image and draw the viewer in, they would make him/her explore and reflect upon the frame and its content.

    Easier said than done and perhaps in this case the surroundings did not give you an opportunity to play around with various compositions. Sorry to dwell so much on the compositional aspect of your image - but I hope you take this as a challenge, so when you go out there again with the camera on your shoulder try pay attention the the subjects and what they are doing, to the foreground and background, try see that postcard with your eyes when you look at the landscape. I so look forward to see more from you here on BPN Wildlife!

    PS One more thing, ISO 200 was too little. Even with the subjects so still I would have tried to aim for at least 1/1000s, especially since you were shooting without support. That D850 of yours is an awesome camera BTW

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    Default Band of Brothers repost smaller group

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    ****, here is a repost of a smaller group of male elk.

    Same camera and specs

    It is a better composition but does not have the large group of the original post.

    Terry

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