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Hello Tobie,
Thank you for sharing this - it must have been very special, watching those males interact. And I notice with delight they are extremely fit and in great condition:)
Been wondering how far the D600 can be pushed in terms of ISO. I think it would have been ideal if you managed to obtain a higher SS, Tobie. I must say framing works well and I like the pose and especially body language - clearly there is a lot of affection between them and a strong bond that hopefully will last for many years. In terms of colour I feel the frame is a still tad too orange overall, could be a matter of WB ( I personally prefer to reduce saturation or vibrance than using a photo filter). Whites look good, blacks a bit strong in the gums and nose area, easy fix if you like. A lovely scene overall and I am glad you had such a wonderful opportunity during your stay in the Kalahari, hope to see more images from your trip
Kind regards,
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Hi Tobie, in agreement with Gabriela, but also the image appears not sharp.
My thoughts on your previous image applies here too.
Like the interaction & bonding.
TFS
Steve
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Hi Tobie - Nice interaction and great that you anticipated it. Gabriela and Steve have covered the critique well and I agree with the points and suggestions they made.
TFS,
Rachel
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Originally Posted by
Jonathan Ashton
I like the composition, the affection is well demonstrated, the colours look a bit off to me, I have taken the liberty of changing them a little WDYT?
Jonathan thanks for commenting and your RP! This pink-ish soil is probably responsible for adding an orange cast to these beasts' bodies but your RP does not reflect the colors of the Kalahari lions - sorry mate! The dune right at the back comprises a red sand as seen in my OP.
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Originally Posted by
Tobie Schalkwyk
Jonathan thanks for commenting and your RP! This pink-ish soil is probably responsible for adding an orange cast to these beasts' bodies but your RP does not reflect the colors of the Kalahari lions - sorry mate! The dune right at the back comprises a red sand as seen in my OP.
Ok Tobie, sorry I was unhelpful.
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Originally Posted by
Jonathan Ashton
Ok Tobie, sorry I was unhelpful.
Not at all Jon - thanks, I welcome & appreciate that! I can understand someone else's reluctance in believing that these beasts simply look like this in Kgalagadi! I actually decided not to post any more of them as I'm going to go through the same explanations with each and everyone of them. I have actually double-checked on a Kgalagadi Facebook group and I find exactly the same phenomenon. I cases where the photographers tried to get the 'common' colors out of their lions, the surroundings were desaturated beyond reality.
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Hi Tobie, just a thought - like many of us who try to help and post a RP we are working from the OP, therefore is there any mileage in sending Jon the RAW, he would then be working from the original like you, but may have some pointers to expand on for you then to take onboard and develop, process and post more from your trip/encounters.
Remembering Morkel's images they were never desaturated, but retained the pink 'hue' you are referring to, so it might just be some simple tweaks at the early stages of PP, worth a shot I think.
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Originally Posted by
Steve Kaluski
Hi Tobie, just a thought - like many of us who try to help and post a RP we are working from the OP, therefore is there any mileage in sending Jon the RAW, he would then be working from the original like you, but may have some pointers to expand on for you then to take onboard and develop, process and post more from your trip/encounters.
Remembering Morkel's images they were never desaturated, but retained the pink 'hue' you are referring to, so it might just be some simple tweaks at the early stages of PP, worth a shot I think.
Thanks for the suggestion Steve. With all respect: the pinkish hue is a result of attempts to remove the orange cast which is actually the 'real' representation of what the lions look like when seen with the naked eye. I think I'd rather bury this lion series and move on to something different. Thanks yet again!
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I think I'd rather bury this lion series and move on to something different.
Your call Tobie, its a real shame, but to me the issue is the WB and resolving that, the rest would just then take whatever direction it needs too.
You have the eye for framing, something that can't always be taught, PP is the easy part as that can be learnt.
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This is a beautiful interaction captured, Tobie. I like it a great deal. I have read the exchange on colour and processing for this one. The original does look odd but I wasn't there so can't comment in any more detail than that. I certainly don't think you should stop posting these... unless you are certain nothing can be done to play with the colour. Of course, it is your choice in the end. Don't forget that our vision systems are very good at adjusting to the ambient light conditions. In essence, our vision auto-corrects for odd colour mixes and balances to a substantial degree. Take a photo of a scene in late afternoon light, for example. The camera version will usually look a lot warmer than the memory of the scene. As for other aspects, I'd place the two more centrally in the composition. I also wondered whether a bit more fine detail could be extracted from this. As I don't know you, I don't know what your experience level is or your workflow. So sorry if I'm off the mark here.
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Originally Posted by
Glenn Pure
I have read the exchange on colour and processing for this one. In essence, our vision auto-corrects for odd colour mixes and balances to a substantial degree.
Thanks for commenting Glenn! All valid points!
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