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    I thought I would get us started with the November theme of "Silhouettes and Backlit Images." A while back I posted a backlit bison image taken in the evening. Here's another one taken the following morning also in Lamar Valley when stuck in a bison jam.

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    HH from car, cropped to remove head of another bison following behind, levels, curves, sharpened in CCPS.

    C&C welcome and appreciated. Thanks,

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    Hi Rachel,

    it seems to me that you were a tad high position. Nevertheless I would prefer to have more light on the Bison's tummy as well. Maybe the FG a tad more darkened as well. Overall looks good to me. I like it that the BG behind the Bison is bright.

    A tad more room would be nice. That's me, as you know

    Have a great day

    Ciao Anette

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    Hi Rachel,

    Bison are tough to back light since they are so dark. You really need the sun very low on the horizon.. Here it seems to be fairly low on the horizon. Image seems a bit dark overall perhaps lighten it up a bit but overall handled very well...

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    Thanks Anette and Dale for the comments and suggestions. Yes, this bison was a little below the road.

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    Yes it works for me, I may consider lifting the darks just a little. Just out of curiosity did you need to rest the white balance or is this as shot?
    I was just about to post an image of a calf bison that is also back lit, I will leave it for a day or two.

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    Hi Rachel, I feel something like this is where you need to be creative with your PP, put the standard WF aside and just go for it and look at being far more striking and put 'art' into the overall appearance because of the light. Backlit to me is where can be bold and explore, this is not a 'true' representation you want to produce here. I've pushed it a bit, but I really do think this is where you need to think OOTB for a change and even challenge yourself, so you grow.

    Be dramatic!!!!

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    Thanks Jon and Steve. Jon - I adjust the WB and tint in ACR same as any other image. Go ahead and post your backlit bison. No worries. Sorry Steve, I really don't like what you have done. Not my vision for the image either at time of capture or pp.

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    Not my vision for the image either at time of capture or pp.
    No clear what you mean??

    No worries but I do think you need to push yourself it the 'creative' department with stuff like this, to me it doesn't work with the usual PP route.

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    Hi Rachel...a lovely capture...I am more in favour of Steve's repost for the darkening of the Bison and the brighter background...I think it also added a bit of rim lighting to the Bison's tummy as Anette mentions.

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    Rachel,I guess you have already a good idea about how I feel about your backlit bison I love this as much as the last,it has also been a fascinating read this thread. Rachel what is actually possible here,can one extract much detail from the dark side in a subject such as this lit like this? Dale speaks of low in the sky,this is a very breif window is it not? when one can have the light weakenough to stop the highlights blowing. Rachel I pretty much love everything about this my only tiny tiny thing is for some reason that white spot ( above bison' head ,right up top) catches me. it's probably a fly I guess but once seen it grabs me every time,I didn't spot it first look too much lovely stuff for the eye to dwell on. Rachel I've looked along time on your image and Steve's repost,I am really struggling, WB wise, I feel I prefer warmer images than I should ,so feel unable to voice an objective opinion . It's a **** fine image though for me which ever way that goes, gorgeous to stare at and ponder !! THANKYOU Sorry for all the questions you help me alot and push me to be better,so in an image such as this there is much to learn and think on,I adore shooting the wrong way to the sun, so much to explore

    take care

    Stu

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    Thanks Steve, Andrew and Stu. Stu - I think how much detail you can extract on the animal depends on a number of factors, including most importantly exposure. I purposely underexposed to bring out the rim light but if you look at my kudu image posted yesterday, there I exposed for the kudu but still had the rim light. I also think it doesn't matter so much if your rim light is a bit bright if the rest of the image isn't. Hope this helps.

    Thanks again,
    Rachel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachel Hollander View Post
    Thanks Steve, Andrew and Stu. Stu - I think how much detail you can extract on the animal depends on a number of factors, including most importantly exposure. I purposely underexposed to bring out the rim light but if you look at my kudu image posted yesterday, there I exposed for the kudu but still had the rim light. I also think it doesn't matter so much if your rim light is a bit bright if the rest of the image isn't. Hope this helps.

    Thanks again,
    Rachel
    Rachel I just wanted to say a bigger thankyou than clicking a button,i'll have a look at the kudu in a moment . There is something so appealing to me about backlit,this months theme is a joy for me

    take care

    Stu

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