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    Waiting for owls moved to stalk a hare and this fella who with his family had been besides us for ages came into play. I love these guys and how they are always talking to each other within the covey.
    Shot is uncropped, he was very relaxed,so I tried to actually frame this as I wanted although it took much foot shuffling to not get oof vegetation in front of him.

    Canon 1Div 300f2/8 ect 1.4iii iso 2500 TV 1/500 f/4 Late in the day as the light was starting to drop Processed in dpp4. I will hopefully revisit this once my schedule lets up and I can get to work on photoshop. WB via eyedropper, adjustment to gamma

    Thanks for all the previous help

    take care

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    A pleasant pastoral scene for this guy! I like the context you have shown, with the soft focus plants. He looks nicely sharp and stands out well against the BG, and the light looks good.

    I might remove the D-shaped piece of grass on the left edge, and the two light spots on the right. Maybe tone down the white on his perch and have a look at a bit of noise reduction on the BG.

    Nice work! Hope to see more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane Miller View Post
    A pleasant pastoral scene for this guy! I like the context you have shown, with the soft focus plants. He looks nicely sharp and stands out well against the BG, and the light looks good.

    I might remove the D-shaped piece of grass on the left edge, and the two light spots on the right. Maybe tone down the white on his perch and have a look at a bit of noise reduction on the BG.





    Nice work! Hope to see more!
    Thanks Diane,some really useful thoughts there for me,some I had mused but others I most definitely hadn't.

    More will follow Diane it's all so slow at the moment, very frustrating! Thanks so much for all the help and the comments on this one

    take care

    Stu

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    Stu, We are very lucky indeed to have BPN and Diane for our tutors! This is such a sweet image. Beautiful BG colours that compliment the bird. Beautiful bird, well captured.

    Agree with Diane on the removal of some of the foliage in front of the bird. The one behind doesn't worry me so much.

    Well done Stu!

    TFS

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    Hi Stu,just a few tweaks maybe a tad brighter and Diane's suggestions,do like the rocky scene and a place for the bird to clean it's muddy feet,I personally would be very pleased with the bird itself with it's nice puffed up pose and good detail.

    Keith.

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    Hi Stu, firstly good to see you grabbing all opportunities and getting the practice in, in both shooting & PP, you can only benefit from doing so and similar to young Keith, it's all about getting out there.

    To the image, 'cardinal sin', the image for posting is not sRGB, but RGB, you need to check your settings, thought this basic step might have been pick up? The whites could still go brighter, the white point needs increasing so you get the right point to start with. You can then address the stone wall accordingly, but with a simple exposure mask (sorry a bit more than you do) you start to bring out the detail. Again run a little Noise Reduction to help the background, however Stu you must avoid applying NR tothe subject, this is where sadly you need to learn about Layers & Masks. The subject is reasonably sharp, you just need to apply a bit more sharpening. I like the placement in frame, nice proportion too. The dead stems are distracting, nothing you could have done, however in PP you will see how easy it is to remove distracting elements, but again, this will require the purchase of Photoshop to do so, but that's in the future.

    Stu, this was very quickly done on the laptop (in the car, sorry) on my way back from some reconnoitring, but it's the same as I would have done later back at the bolt hole, as I won't be back 'home' till Wednesday, but hopefully it gives you again a way forward.

    Things are improving, but it all comes in time.

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    Nice adjustments Steve to an already pleasing image. The sharpening on the bird really makes it stand out and I love the pose and the perch. Keep them coming Stu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glennie Passier View Post
    Stu, We are very lucky indeed to have BPN and Diane for our tutors! This is such a sweet image. Beautiful BG colours that compliment the bird. Beautiful bird, well captured.

    Agree with Diane on the removal of some of the foliage in front of the bird. The one behind doesn't worry me so much.

    Well done Stu!

    TFS
    Don't I know it Glennie,I'm so grateful for what these guys are patiently trying to show us all,I feel bad in some ways as my progress is so slow and i'm not even on to PS yet,but it WILL come!!!!!!!!!!

    Anyway mate,thanks for the kind words,I thought folks would pick up on the dried bramble stems,but didn't comtemplate Diane's D on the far left at all. Glennie,we were besides then for maybe hours,I think he's just got used to me. So, for me, this one is quite special as I had time to think, frame and steady me self (it's hand held I think I may have forgotten to mention this) ...basically take the picture I wanted to take.Normally things are so **** fast with wildlife). Nice not cropping !!!!! All the info is there,Steve and others have hammered me with this. It's a little step Glennie,but lovely being able to have that bit of extra time to muse the pic and work with the camera.

    Cheers mate

    Stu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    Hi Stu, firstly good to see you grabbing all opportunities and getting the practice in, in both shooting & PP, you can only benefit from doing so and similar to young Keith, it's all about getting out there.

    To the image, 'cardinal sin', the image for posting is not sRGB, but RGB, you need to check your settings, thought this basic step might have been pick up? The whites could still go brighter, the white point needs increasing so you get the right point to start with. You can then address the stone wall accordingly, but with a simple exposure mask (sorry a bit more than you do) you start to bring out the detail. Again run a little Noise Reduction to help the background, however Stu you must avoid applying NR tothe subject, this is where sadly you need to learn about Layers & Masks. The subject is reasonably sharp, you just need to apply a bit more sharpening. I like the placement in frame, nice proportion too. The dead stems are distracting, nothing you could have done, however in PP you will see how easy it is to remove distracting elements, but again, this will require the purchase of Photoshop to do so, but that's in the future.

    Stu, this was very quickly done on the laptop (in the car, sorry) on my way back from some reconnoitring, but it's the same as I would have done later back at the bolt hole, as I won't be back 'home' till Wednesday, but hopefully it gives you again a way forward.

    Things are improving, but it all comes in time.

    Steve
    Buddy you did that to my image while driving and then apologised,sorry couldn't not.......ok focused !!


    Steve, camera set to adobe rgb,you told me that i'm sure it was you?...done (I'll check all this,but need to be right)

    raw conversion adobe RGB (in my case DPP4 had some probs getting it to stick but again you or someone here got me sorted

    Steve, then when one converts to jpeg for web I thought we went to srgb,what have I got wrong please Steve,these are base things,they have to be right !!!! **** I thought I had this worked out Thanks for correcting me kiddo!!

    Steve the image, I understand no NR to sunject ...reduces sharpness,and layer masks to either blur or sharpen a subject to some extent: I think I under stand the process,doing is different,but i'm not blind to whats got to happen Steve on a basic level anyway . your repost is ace mate so much more in the rocks,I need to study the highlight side again mate,thanks for pointing that out.

    Sharpness I worry on

    Steve thanks for this,it's your time, took alot from that repost mate a LOT!!

    little steps buddy,

    Stu

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith mitchell View Post
    Hi Stu,just a few tweaks maybe a tad brighter and Diane's suggestions,do like the rocky scene and a place for the bird to clean it's muddy feet,I personally would be very pleased with the bird itself with it's nice puffed up pose and good detail.

    Keith.
    Good olde cotswold drystone wall Keith. I don't much care for man made things in my pics,but these walls are lovely. Thanks for the thoughts Keith ,I'm blown away with what Steve has done very imformative !! Gorgeous little folks,he was completely relaxed with me Keith, possibly what you have picked up on regarding plumage

    take care

    Stu

    Cheers Keith thanks for the comment on my boys too!!

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    Buddy you did that to my image while driving
    No, I was parked up and just answering emails/mail and had some time, technology rocks at times. Probably could have refined the image even more if I was home, but that is NOT what you need, it's concentrating on the basic steps and getting those right, then you can progress, walk, not run.


    Steve, camera set to adobe rgb,you told me that i'm sure it was you?...done (I'll check all this,but need to be right)
    Correct - Set camera to Adobe RGB

    raw conversion adobe RGB (in my case DPP4 had some probs getting it to stick but again you or someone here got me sorted
    It was Andreas and keep that link of continuity, as he will help you with DPP.

    Steve, then when one converts to jpeg for web I thought we went to srgb,what have I got wrong please Steve,these are base things,they have to be right !!!! **** I thought I had this worked out Thanks for correcting me kiddo!!
    I think it's when you Export, but it's years since I used DPP, again contact Andreas and tell him to provide Step by Step points on how to convert from RGB to sRGB.

    Regarding the 'rocks & sharpness' this is where PS comes into play and it will cost you less than a couple of pints per month, but only when you are ready. If I had a version of PS on DVD you could have uploaded I would have given you that, but sadly it would not support the MKIV, as so many Upgrades become downloads direct as a Business package.

    Cheers
    Steve

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    Hi Stu , i see you are struggling with the color space , as the Muntjac also has Adobe RGB embedded .
    As many times with other stuff ..... DPP is quite clunky in parts but still no way around it for me i rather take some little disadvantages in terms of WF than swopping the converter but this is just me

    So here you go and it is very clunky

    For each and every image you want to save in sRGB ( not even the international known one , instead Mr Canon uses its own , for whatever reason ???? ) you have to change the Work Color Space of DPP .
    So once you finished your edits and you are ready to save the file :

    Go to the top of your screen to find the ADJUSTMENT tab open it and find the Work Color Space
    There you can change the color space from Adobe RGB to sRGB

    Once this is done , find the SAVE button on top of your DPP window , hit the button and a pop up window will open .
    In the window choose the dimensions you want the image to be ( pixel size ) and the file format ( exif jpeg ) and the resolution 72 for web images , Quality etc .
    Do not forget to enable the tick box for embedding the ICC profile .

    Then you can hit the save button .

    Once you are ready with this you have to reset DPP work color space to Adobe RGB for the next file ..... yes bit clunky if you are limited to DPP only , no issue for me or others as we export straight to PS and change color space in PS .

    Hope this helps a bit

    Cheers Andreas

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    Thanks Adreas, this what is needed, simple, clearly defined steps, without all the gobbledegook jargon.

    Stu, you should be all good to go now the posting.

    BTW Andreas, if you have more 'stuff' related to DPP, then it might be worth hosting in Resources as a sticky.

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    Steve,absolutely mate walk not run that's how I learn anyway,little steps !!! Thanks for this buddy the reworked image shows me what can be got from the file I have created it is huge for me Steve to actually see it. Want ps now Steve,just so busy so **** tired I need time to apply myself not be exhausted,it's this why I haven't clocked this colour space,again huge thanks for spotting this for me buddy.

    Thanks for everything mate

    Andreas,you are a complete star buddy,I hope you are well. I simply didn't realize I had to convert ever image,it's an oversight my friend ,but at leas I have got my colourspaces correct,it's just I've messed up the aplication,simply didn't realize that I had yo change comour space each time during conversion. Mate, thank you for the detailed reply I think I can get that down without issue until I can get to PS. On all levels I want it now Andreas,but with these hours it's amazing I'm posting anything. Sorry for this Andreas the man that never made a mistake never did nuffin,but you have given me so much time already I should be on top of this one,my humble apologies!!

    Thanks again both,

    Stu

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