ISO 900
D750
600mm f4 Nikon
f6.3
cropped and pp in PS/LR
lift the exposure a little???
Juvenile Great Tits
ISO 900
D750
600mm f4 Nikon
f6.3
cropped and pp in PS/LR
lift the exposure a little???
A charming capture Bill. Nice to get two in the frame. They do look a bit 'flat', maybe some more mid-tone contrast would give them a 'lift'. Regards, Ian.
Lovely image, two in the frame a bonus. The exposure looks fine on my display. Thank you for sharing.
Joe Przybyla
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Great shot of the couple. Like the details and frame. Agree with Ian, a bit of mid contrast would improve. TFS.
Cheers,
Miro
Thanks All - really appreciate your comments and viewing
This is the best I can do edit-wise, not sure that it is much different
I quite like the detail in the feet!!!
Hi Bill, hope you will not be angry I used your sample. I did mid contrast (mid contrast luminosity mask + curves tool) in PS of your frame.
It looks like that:
The additional improvement could be to darken a bit the perch and some eye work.....
Cheers,
Miro
No problem Miro - happy to see edits of my images
my problem is that I cannot really see a difference - maybe I need a new pair of glasses!
...or a different monitor. There is a noticeable difference -- where to stop is preference -- for me I might go about halfway in between just because the light appears to have been cloudy.
Is there a little more canvas on the bottom and right? It's a lovely image but feels just a little tight in the frame.
Agree with Diane, please check your monitor.Originally Posted by Bill Nuttall
Cheers,
Miro
Thanks for all your comments and advice, really appreciated
Here is the best I can do Diane and Miro
a few changes ....... the white circles are daisies in the bg, which I have left as is
cloned out branches - local sharpening- a little eye work - brightness adj - contrast adj - local Dodge and burn - changed crop
I have the latest 5k Retina, a MPB and a 24" iMac - I can see that Miro's edit is darker and the colours stronger, but these are young Birds, almost just fledged, (look at the gape), and their colours are not as strong as adults
I shoot Nikon and used the Auto 1 WB setting on this shot - I have noticed that Canon images tend to be warmer - (OOC) versus Nikon - it has been suggested that the in camera Cloudy WB setting may be better to use as a "standard"
not sure which I prefer now and so many slightly different versions can be produced ...... depends on ability in pp
The shots were taken in my back "garden", it's quite large, all types of habitat with 600mm - no hide - just sat under a tree, hiding! - the birds were born in the garden and they are as "used" to me as they could be
I'm in the process of sorting out a "hide" or two ...... until then I cannot get any nearer without the birds flying away
Diane and Miro
Here is the original OOC Nikon RAW - un-cropped and just exported from LR as a jpeg
If you like spaghetti!
I felt that it was underexposed
Hi Bill,
If we are talking about colors and tone balance than on my monitor the above original looks better then the last PP edit. If original is underexposed than it must be very small amount, not more than -0.15. Furthermore, WB can be an issue because I can see a bit of green cast on the perch. If the light passed through the green foliage than green cast would be a problem. Hope your monitor is well calibrated. In RAW editor WB can be improved. For reference can be used some white, grey or even black point of the bird. I know that juveniles are less colorful and the main task in PP would be to separate BG tone and birds. Just to make photo more appropriate to the eyes. In your last PP edit I don't see it. The new crop looks better. Hope it helps.
Cheers,
Miro
Thanks Miro, especially for your time - I'll have another go once I build up strength
I think that my monitor is OK ...... it is me that is the problem!@??
Quite a nice job cleaning up the spaghetti! The last post is on the green side where the original was leaning to blue-magenta.
Colors and color balance are tricky and it is a process to learn to see it. If there is an object in the frame that should be neutral, you can click the WB eyedropper there to get an idea. I pulled it into PS and did a curves layer and used the gray eyedropper to click on the righthand bird's head and got just a slight shift away from the greens. There probably was some green in the light.
I often modify things from there to taste. The camera's built-in WB settings can be good or awful -- usually awful. They are just a starting point for the raw conversion anyway -- they are set initially but you can easily change it.
An often-overlooked setting is the Camera Profile, hidden down at the bottom of the LR Develop Module panels. Sometimes the default Adobe Standard isn't the best choice. But again, things will need to be tweaked back in the main tonal adjustments.
That laptop is probably pretty accurate. Sometimes they are better before profiling than after! Work in subdued lighting with no bright colors around, including the computer screen BG -- I set mine to gray. And go back to an image several days later for a fresh look. I often cringe at my first adjustments when I see them later. The eye accommodates too much sometimes, the way we don't see the blue tint in shade.
It's a process -- hang in there -- you have a lovely image here!
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