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    Hi all ,
    my next contribution to this month theme .Portrait of a Antarctic Fur Seal taken on South Georgia Island some while ago this should be a female or a young male , i actually cannot say afterwards .
    Image was flipped afterwards for Steve and Gabriela who are trying /tried to explain me the optical better look if subjects come in from the right ........ hopeless for me i just do not have the eye for it ....... too much a Tech Nech Eye Doc as Anette would say , still hope some of you might like this .

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    F 8 / Iso 1000 ; 1/640 sec ; man exp ; full frame

    Processed with DPP 4 and PS CC

    Thanks for looking and leaving a comment to my previous posting

    Cheers Andreas

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    Hi all as i was not sure about the crop here is a tighter version , what works better ?
    Cheers Andreas

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    Hi Andreas, he certainly has a big eye. Fantastic detail and sharpness. I like the RP better. Very nice BG too.

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    Hi Andreas,

    Just quickly because I am on my way to the feathers and must wake up at 4 am tomorrow...second version works better for me - more impact. Might take off a tad from the RHS but it's up to you:) Love it, very sharp and subject so alive in the frame:) Love that reflection in the eye. See you soon Mr B.E. , I am off to look for my Rosetta/Safran...
    Gabriela Plesea

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    Hi Andreas, taking the OP I might have preferred a hint more to the LHS to look into, I think the RP addresses this but overall do you think it's a BIF? On the laptop the subject looks a little 'Processed' if you know what I mean. The BKG certainly gives separation/standout to the subject, is it too smooth? I do like the wet fur and the contours, shapes and the various directions it makes.

    Image was flipped afterwards for Steve and Gabriela who are trying /tried to explain me the optical better look if subjects come in from the right
    Andreas, it all depends on the subject, sometimes it works and it 'sits' better, other times it's fine as shot, you just have to try it, but you should not think, 'oh I shot it this way it's wrong to flip it', some people do and I feel that is a straight jacket, just personal preference, it's your call.

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    Thanks Sanjeev, Gabriela and Steve for your feedback .
    Steve - i will not get it about the flipping , sorry, but understand what you talk about .I think one needs an eye for that ...... i maybe just do not have that eye . I am a hopeless case in that case , and it is not so important for me . I like the image as shot as well as per RP II.Yes in the end it is my call , but i always try to listen to other opinions and i have to understand before i can make a decision .

    BIF ? What does this mean ? Too processed ? well matter of taste in this case i disagree , what makes it look too processed for you ? Can you please be more precise . BKG too smooth ? nothing changed in BKG in terms of smoothness ,no NR at all or other softening edits !!
    For comparison the file i sent to PS out of DPP 4 .

    Anyway thanks for your constructive critique ,much appreciated .A more detailed description would be great . Cheers Andreas

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    On the laptop Andreas it just looks a little 'pushed' (meaning when you go too far) in the processing, it's not as refined if you like, to your normal processing to me, but as I said I'm viewing on the laptop.

    All I'm doing is asking a question, if I think it's a little smooth then I have no idea if you have added a blur, NR etc, hence the question.

    BIF - Big in Frame

    Hope this helps.

    Thought some of the regular faces may have chimed in?

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    Steve i am fine that you ask questions .I hope i gave you the answer .
    Yes this is pushed a bit more , if i have my LCE adjustments group in a "normal/regular" 33 % opacity i went with this to 66% .And it just went to the subject not the BKG.
    I am fine with the framing either way , just matter of taste !!
    Regular faces seem to be hidden in the last days , wherever they are .

    Yes it helps !!

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    Perhaps it's the LCE, perhaps pop one across with 33% no need for a RP.


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    Steve i can tell you ( normally ) on every image what is the "fault" , because i have made the "fault" myself . Sometimes i just do not see it in the first place and need to be pointed out by somebody else who is looking from a different perspective .
    As i work on every image with LCE as a general edit ( in different variations not just one !!!) and play afterwards with the opacity and mask it out where not needed in the file .I do not ask does it help the image , like you might do , i just ask does it please my eyes . So as a end result i could go too far for others and after being posted out by others i agree or disagree .

    Will see if i can get it across , but could be difficult because it is down in the layer stack , but i try

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    Can you not create a new LCE Layer, then turn off the old, flatten re save job done, that's the great thing about layers, you can constantly refine the Master file.

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    I only work with layers and save them within the master file as a PSD .No problem to do so , but in some cases i have a another pixel layer above the LCE layer in the layer stack and this layer contains the LCE edits too . So i have to rework the whole stack above the LCE layer and depending on the complexity it can take some time .In this image there is only one pixel layer above so no big deal to do so , you see it came across .

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    Hi Andreas - I am back from Yellowstone, after a delay, and catching up on images I missed. I am one that does not flip my images (as Steve knows) because I know what it looked like when I captured it and the flipped image looks wrong to me. Of course, the same issue does not apply to other people's images unless I was there at the time of capture. I too prefer your rp in #2 the most. The comp just works better for me. Nice tones and details. I think the finer fur in the op looks a little too sharp btw.

    TFS,
    Rachel

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