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    Default Naughty curiosity.....

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    Most of the felid ( Cat ) family will hide their very young cubs while the female goes off to hunt....

    Usually the cubs will remain quietly concealed, but this little guy just couldn't resist coming out to see what the noise was...

    I deliberated long and hard over whether I should clone out the offending branch and grass, but eventually decided that I would only crop slightly to get better cpmposition, but leave the surrounding vegetation in because it just added to the over-all authenticity about their concealment and his naughty behaviour by sneaking out to have a look...



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    I like this Tim, not concerned too much about the grasses & overhead branch, indicating it's natural environment.
    I'd personally go for a slight crop off the top.
    Love the look of intent here, I played with the mid tone levels here and that provided more pop overall, something worth investigating.

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    Hi Marc, Nice to meet you...

    Thank you for your kind input, I will certainly keep that in mind and apply where necessary

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    A very cute leopard cub Tim. I like the pose and look he/she gave you. Agree with Marc about the mid tones. Colour looks a bit warm with a slight yellow cast. Maybe its my monitor. I don't mind the vegetation and branches at all. Glad you left them in.

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    Hi Sanjeev.

    I re-calebrate my monitor once a month and did it agin today ( I use a Spyder4Pro 4.5.4 ) ...

    I know that area and those animals well and with great respect, I am happy that the colours / tones were accurately respresented.

    I do agree however that I needed some "pop" ....

    I am still very much a novice when it comes to PP, but am learning as much as I can.

    I always accept constructive comments gratefully and thank you sincerely for your kind input.

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    Thanks Tim. It indeed is a beautiful image. Thanks for sharing.

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    Hi Tim - Big cuteness factor here. I like the pose. I personally don't clone (unless a very artsy image that is a large departure from the actual scene) so no problem for me with leaving the branch and grass in. Marc has made a good suggestion but be careful not to overdo it. I would also apply a little more sharpening to the face.

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    Hi Tim, I like the overall composition and the square framing works. Like Marc said, the grass isn't an issue, but the gaze is captivating and like the overall space you have given the subject. Techs look good, especially with the 7D, polls apart from the 1Dx.

    Looking at the image, I also agree with Sanjeev, the warm tones do look slight off and with some of the colour it begins to choke the 'finer' detail too. I appreciate what we also see to a degree is different and likewise the environment we work in, but just pulling back on the W/B, some of the colours in HSL (Hue, Saturation & Luminance) and Exp levels does help. This is not by any means perfect, but may help illustrate what Sanjeev & I are saying so you can see as a comparison, but again it's probably somewhere between the two I think?

    Tim if you are using LR to Export from then you can adjust the PPI, this will help the overall image too as it's only 96ppi in the OP.

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    Wonderful eye contact and I like the composition. Agree on the cropping slightly off the top

    Nicely done

    TFS

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    Hi Tim

    I think this a lovely image with good potential. Great pose and I like the fact the cub is on a rock which is not always a luck to get. I have tired a few adjustments to the image. I have made it brighter by about 4 points. I dropped the yellow in selective colour and I reduced the saturation by about 7 points. Also a I did round of selective sharpening on the cub only. Maybe I have gone a bit too far with the reduced yellow lets see what you think. I hope you don't mind

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    I didn't realise Steve had done a RP and I think he has hit the nail on the head. Mine isn't even close. His colours are more natural.

    Nice one Steve!!!

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    Hi Steve,

    Thanks for the great input, but I have to respectfully add that on my monitor I had the colour pretty much natural as it was... No disrespect but I know that area and those animals and this copy is a little too light..

    The setting of 96 Dpi is easily reset and I would appreciated being given the heads-up on what to make it please?

    Thanks again, as usual for your most constructive and valuable input.

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    Hi Dumay,

    I am always rather skittish at trying to over-sharpen images as they can then look a bit spooky... * I actually have a block-mount on canvas 900cm x 1,340cm on one of my walls at home and it is still pin-sharp...

    Guys, I really do appreciate all your kind input and certainly have taken it all in.... I must just sharpen up on my PP skills which are in kindergarten grade at the moment

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    Hi Tim

    Sharpening is for web presentation only. So I'm sure your canvas print looks sharp but for web presentation some sharpening should be applied. Of course over sharpening is a problem but done right it works well.
    Re the colour, all of Steves images are about as perfect a reflection of what colour actually looks like. I have never seen anyone get truer colour than him. His repost is miles of an improvement of the colours of your OP. It may be a little light for your taste but the colours are great in his RP.
    I must say after looking at my crop of your image I actually prefer your original crop.

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    Tim, do you Export from LR? If so, drop me a PM with your email address and I will fwd a screen grab as you cannot attach images to PM's.

    Dumay is spot on re sharpening, you MUST sharp at the FINAL output size, basically every time you change the size you must sharpen the image. In LR you would add Input sharpening then when Exporting apply Output sharpening for the relevant medium i.e. Screen, Print... Dumay's images are spot on for sharpening, however to my knowledge, all screens will not display a 300 ppi image, different screens will fluctuate in what they show

    I assume Tim all your settings for your monitor screen like Gamma, White point etc are all set too?

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    A lovely pose and moment here Tim.
    I agree with the others above that it could do with some more sharpening. Steve's assistance in your export process will work well - I always sharpen as the last step for a web image, as mentioned above the sharpening slider in LR is only for input sharpening of the RAW file. I think the colours are very subjective, for me personally the ideal would probably be somewhere between your original image and Steve's repost. I also agree with the stance re cloning as Rachel laid it out (a personal choice for every photographer), and am fine with the foliage you left in.

    PS: I remember that we met after my talk at the Photo & Film Expo...
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    Hi Dumay. Cool, thanks for that.

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    Howzit Morkel,

    Many thanks for the great input...

    Yup we did weet at the P+V Expo in JHB....

    Also thanks for the support on SA Wildlife Photographers FB site...

    I see you were at Zimanga recently .... If you come up to KZN, please give me a shout. Always happy to share a bun-and-a-Coke

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    Hi Steve,

    As usual, Steve to the rescue.... Thanks so much... I must be getting to be a right pain for you by now..

    LR 5.7 Yes...... I tried to get into LR 5.8 on the Adobe site, but my security blocked the attempt to upgrade for some reason...

    Yes, I do export to pre-named new folders and can go right up to 350 DPI with no problem...Never tried it higher than that before..

    I have a Dell U2713HM Ultrasharp 27" LED Monitor and calibrate it once a month.....

    I guess that I have to find out the finer details from our computer guy who set it up for me when it was originally installed...I can get back to you on that as it is Sunday night here now and will ask him tomorrow....

    Here is my email address ... tim@rhinoarmy.org.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Driman View Post
    Howzit Morkel,

    Many thanks for the great input...

    Yup we did weet at the P+V Expo in JHB....

    Also thanks for the support on SA Wildlife Photographers FB site...

    I see you were at Zimanga recently .... If you come up to KZN, please give me a shout. Always happy to share a bun-and-a-Coke

    Regards

    Tim
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    Hey Tim. I visited Zimanga in June shortly before they officially opened. Might go back sometime this year depending on schedule - will be sure to be in touch if I do!
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    Hi Tim , you got good suggestions already made by others , just select from the various feedback what suits you .
    I like the cute look of the leopard and the pose he is in . I do not mind about the grass and twigs , they are there and i guess there was no way to avoid them completely .

    TFS Andreas

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    Hi Andreas, Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. Much appreciated.

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