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    Default Great Egret Breeding Plummage

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    This shot was taken at the Venice Florida Rookery.


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    Hi James !!! Must have been there in the afternoon !!! Do like the idea very much these can look spectacular !!!

    Same rule applies to these images, need your head angle. Wish you had the exp comp used for the image. Exposure wise I think you could had more. Back lit images usually have to be over and lots of flash is needed for fill light. Even the flash is set a plus comp.

    Given the distance you were photographing not sure how effective the flash would have been and probably would set manually at full. Settings wise no need to stop down to F11 and have the slow shutter speed. I like the experimenting !!!!

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    Hi James!

    Al really said it all and usually does and I mean that as a compliment to him. Backlit images are so tough but when they work they are superb. The head turn sure would have helped here and perhaps some pp help with the whites. Not sure a flash would work either but I would for sure have given one a try especially with the sun where it is.

    By the way, you can post up to 800pixels on the long side so bump it up next time so we get the best view we can!
    Keep em coming!

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    I'm not sure what you fellows mean by head turn? Jim

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    Hi James

    We are talking about the head angle in relation to the film plane. In you bird it is looking away. Same pose but with the bird looking to his right makes for a better image. On tight head images with the bird perfectly parallel to the film plane you will always hear "wish for a little more head turn" Reason ..... if the head is slightly turn to the camera the tip of the bill will be in the same plane as eye making them both razor sharp. Makes a difference.

    btw the same way as we treat the head we treat a bird in flight. If you made the image past your position with the bird going away it detracts from the image. None are hard rules but seem to make a difference !!!

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    One more thing James, when the head is parallel as Al says you are then able to get that great catchlight in the eye when the sun or flash hits it. The catch light kicks the image up a notch or two!

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    Can you show me a picture demonstrating this head turn? Thanks Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Parker View Post
    Can you show me a picture demonstrating this head turn? Thanks Jim
    Sure,



    The Glossy Ibis above has his body turned slightly away from the camera. If you look at the eye and beak though you will see they are on the same plane and parallel to the camera, note the catch light in the eye. Normally you will not get a catch light when the bird is looking away from the camera. Imagine a string going from the birds pupil ,is that string coming straight your lens or at a different point away from your lens? You want the string to go to your lens, in a straight line!!! You may not get it every time but that is what you want to strive for.

    If I made this image 2 seconds earlier there would be no catchlight because the bird was not looking my way. I waited for the head turn towards me....

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    Thanks George I get it now! Jim

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    ................... were did you find that bird George :D:D:D:cool:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred Forns View Post
    ................... were did you find that bird George :D:D:D:cool:
    That guy is from my stomping grounds! Jamaica Bay! :cool:

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