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    Taken the other day early morning,this Roe Deer,it was on its own just browsing,I wish the ear had not cut across its antler,but it is what it is.cannon500mm IS,L,F4,7D,700mm FL,tripod,ISO1250,F5.6,1/400S,crop,sharpened,level's.

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    Hi Chris - Nice pose from the deer and vertical was a good choice here. I like the oof grass at the bottom and the grass bg. I'm not sure about the saturation and color (we don't have these here). Is this species that red? There's some blue coming in across the nose. Also the blacks are a bit choked. I would prefer a bit more room below for the virtual legs. It would be worth it to go back and rework this one a little.

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    Rachel,these deer are quite red in summer,and a grey brown in winter,they are in the north of England were I live,I can post a side view of this one to show you how red it is,but it is a biggish crop.thanks for looking and comments.I have edit my reply with a side view of the same deer.thanks again.
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    Hi Chris. Nice looking deer and like the pose with his ears facing forward in the direction of where it is looking, obviously listening for something. On my screen it looks to be lacking in some detail and a little crunchy. Not sure if this is a big crop at all. Other than suggestions already mentioned a suggestion might be to take a little off the left hand side or if you have space to add more to the RHS so that the head is not centred and allows it to look into a bit more space. WDYT. TFS

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    Hi Chris , i like this and would echo Rachelīs thoughts and suggestions . I also feel the overall sat , specially the reds a fraction too strong.
    I am with Carl about looking a tad crunchy on my screen , too.

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    Thanks for looking and your comments.

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    Love the greens but Mr Deer looks a touch contrasty, but the OP is a dine looking fella!

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    thanks Neil,the original I have is a lot better,but they all seem to lose a bit of quality when I upload.

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    Hi Chris, certainly backing of on the Contrast and perhaps even the Black may help the crunchy aspect, it might also be clashing with the ISO as the 7D is not that forgiving at higher ISO, exp needs to be spot on. I think just having the subject a fraction more to the left would have helped, likewise more below for the legs. Having spent the last three weeks in grass like this, I do agree backing off on the reds, as they are more of a softer yellow before the grass seeds. These animals are skittish so congrats on getting what you did, but the landscape image (albeit only to illustrate colour) if far better on all levels.

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    Thankyou for your comments Steve and looking,agree on looking contrasty and a bit crunchy,but I am sticking to the red of the deer.thanks again.

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    Chris I'm ok with the red based on the landscape version, posted as an illustrative point. Hope you get some more today, weather is still/calm with reasonable light, just stay the right side of any breeze.

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    Color phases sound like the deer around here. Like the pose, focused on something other than you at the moment.

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    Thanks for looking and comments Steve,and you too Steve K.

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    Christopher, I'm late here but can only agree with the comments of others. The "grittiness" is characteristic of the 7D, but there is a way to process high ISO 7D photos properly. I shared a workflow with Rachel a few years ago, perhaps she still has it on her email or PM system somewhere?
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    Hi Chris and Morkel - that workflow was several incarnations of PS ago and with the advancements in ACR, it's no longer applicable. I find that the grittiness in 7D images often comes from too much clarity applied in the conversion. The grittiness is augmented in either high ISO images or if the image is even slightly underexposed. So if either of these things are present, my suggestion would be to back off on the clarity slider.

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    Chris depending on what RAW converter you are using, but agree with Rachel. LR 4 - 5.4 you need very little if any clarity unlike LR3, likewise in PS, you also want to avoid clogging any mid tone areas where all your nice detail is. Black, Contrast & Clarity go easy with a light hand.

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    Thanks for comments,I use DPP,and Photo Shop,I must add,that the fur of the deer is starting to moult,I agree with your suggestion's.Thank's again.

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