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    A couple of weeks ago I posted some yellow warbler images and got some good feedback re exposure and brightness. I was dialing the camera up and down all over the place and got some decent images at very different settings. I've been working hard at trying to figure out different ways to process (PS) yellow in bright light images like this one - under different settings and similar light (same day, same time, same general location)

    Is this closer? I would appreciate your input?

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    7D, 700mm @ f/8, 1/2000, ISO 800, HH, about 80%FF, HH, audio used
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    A very nice pose, comp and background. It still feels just a tad bright to me, especially the perch. Some Levels manipulation might help, but a simple thing to try might be to use the S/H tool, with the S slider at zero and just a point or two on the H slider, for the bird. Maybe a bit more for the perch.

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    Hi Enrique,I like your image of this smashing looking bird and agree with Bill re composition and BG,I did wonder about a touch of Gamma correction just to tone it down a bit, just a thought.
    Regards Keith.

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    Still too bright Enrique. A third reduction looks better. Great pose, detail and BG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Salem View Post
    Still too bright Enrique. A third reduction looks better. Great pose, detail and BG.
    Thanks for your comments... I give up here!

    I would have hope for at least one person here to like it as is....

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    Enrique, it is a beautiful image of a beautiful bird but I agree it is still bright as posted. David's suggestion of reducing the exposure by (at least) a third would work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Cadieux View Post
    Enrique, it is a beautiful image of a beautiful bird but I agree it is still bright as posted. David's suggestion of reducing the exposure by (at least) a third would work well.
    Thanks Daniel. I appreciate your taking time to give me input. I've seen some white on white images that may be "brighter" than this one that did not prompt similar comments re brightness. Maybe because of the yellow here... not sure why. What sort of histogram would be best here? Maybe that would be the most informative way to approach this question because simply saying it is too bright leaves too much to interpretation. Or too much or too little contrast?

    I am trying to do something different here, for me anyway. I reduced exposure by at least 1/4-1/3 of a stop during conversion (while not showing any blown out areas in the original RAW file). I've done quite a bit of work using layer masks, targeting the brights mostly. cooled it down by a few using color balance layer and reduced the sat in yellow just a tad using a sat layer - to make sure it did not show any out-of-gamut areas with the intended paper profile before printing. In my calibrated monitor at home, I can see awesome detail in the whites and yellows on the bird. The print looks great to me also.

    I've gotten different comments for these images in another forum - kinda opposite really. And because I am not getting any technical comments here, I am left with the conclusion that it is a matter of taste and those that have commented here prefer these images to be darkened by (a second round of) exposure reduction in addition to whatever else I did to the image during conversion and PP. Sorry if I did not include more details of how I processed the image in the OP...

    Hey, ... I just want to keep learning... :)
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    I am looking into this gamma correction suggestion Keith. Thanks!

    I found one reference. Will look for more

    http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...correction.htm

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    I tried it both ways... adjusting the exposure by 1/3 stop and by adjusting the gamma correction to .9. I like it better using the gamma corrections. Here is it. You are right Keith... a slight change but definitively and improvement. Learned something new... Thanks all for your comments

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    Enrique I think the adjustment you have made has given the bird just a bit more body certainly better IMHO,bet these Yellow birds against a light BG are a bit difficult so very well done getting this.

    Cheers Keith.

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