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    Default Cape Buffalo .. at the end of a long hot day you can't beat a good soak

    This scarred old bull was captured in the Timbavati reserve, Kruger NP.

    Nikon D300s
    Sigma 120-400mm lens @ 240mm
    1/500s
    f5.3
    ISO450

    Handheld from game vehicle


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    Martin, please check your web setting, you need to Convert to Profile to give the correct sRGB profile and then ensure the three boxes are checked in Save for Web, as to date, ALL your images all have untagged profiles and may not be displayed correctly.

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    Steve, this is a bit of a mystery to me.
    When I open the image in Photoshop I convert it to sRGB, 8bits/channel
    when saving I tick the ICC profile box.

    where am I going wrong?

    I use the same process I use for other sites and - to me at least the images are displayed correctly.

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    Steve,
    I have prepared the same image using a slightly different workflow.
    has this solved to problem?
    Last edited by Martin Dunn; 09-10-2013 at 07:36 AM. Reason: trying to resolve colour profile issues

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    Hi Martin - Are you using Save or Save for Web? Use Save for Web after you've processed the image to the way you want it, reduced the image size and sharpened the reduced image. In "Save for Web" you should have "Optimized," "Embed Color Profile" and "Convert to sRGB" all checked. Even with these checked I still do an extra step of Convert to Profile right before I Save for Web.

    Can you please tell us a little more about the shooting conditions and your pp? Again the light looks harsh but there's a strong red cast to the image and the red channel is blown. What's your WB setting? Did you change it in pp? Let's start here and see if we can help you optimize the image.

    Btw what lodge in the Timbavati? I'm heading back there for my 3rd time at Kings Camp next year.

    TFS,
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    Hi Martin - although I was looking at your OP and composing my post when you posted the rp, I just pulled your rp into CS6 and it still has the same issues.

    Rachel

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    Martin, I hate to tell you, but all of your images carry an untagged profile, even elsewhere ie White Lion, Leopard at rest....

    Once you have resized your image so it's good to go for web, (BTW it does not need to be 8 bit, you can still use 16bit) you must Convert to Profile and change from your Working space to the Destination space sRGB. Once that is done when you use Save for Web ensure these three boxes in the window are checked:
    - Optimzed
    - Embeded Colour Profile
    - Convert to sRGB

    Then Optimize the file, then Save. Job done
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    Rachel,
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Shooting conditions: Just on sunset. Nice warm light.
    My post processing is pretty basic because I am a bit of a klutz at it.
    1> I use Nikon Capture to convert my RAW image to a TIFF. I do not like Photoshop and I really can't get to grips with Lightroom, the images just don't seem as crisp as I get using Capture.
    2> In Capture I usually make any adjustments to exposure I think are needed. I look for any blown highlights and tame them down. I might adjust contrast by up to 10% and add a bit of warmth. Then I selectively apply an unsharp mask to the main subject. All done, save as TIFF.
    3> at this stage I have embedded the sRGB profile
    4> Import into Photoshop Elements
    5> Check that the profile is still sRGB and 8 bits/channel
    6> re size the image
    7> final sharpening adjustment
    8> save for web.

    On this image I added warmth because I have previously been told it needed it. My original version was a lot cooler and I was happy with it but wiser heads than mine suggested it needed more warmth so I obliged.

    Timbavati Camp - I was staying at Umlani when I shot this one. I also use Motswari and I'm heading back there at the beginning of October. They are both great and the guides are first rate. Which one I use depends on the clients I am with.

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    Steve,

    That is pretty much what I am doing.
    I check the profile and the sRGB is always greyed out - which I assume means it is the selected profile.

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    Martin - how about posting your cooler version for comparison. As a Canon shooter I'm not familiar with Nikon Capture. Maybe Morkel or someone else is and can chime in. I did use PSE before making the leap to CS. If I recall correctly you can make levels adjustments in PSE and there are downloads to be able to make curves adjustments. I don't think you can view the channels the way you can in full PS so you may not be able to easily do luminosity masks. I know you can use masks and selections to make selective adjustments in PSE, can you do so in Nikon Capture?

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    I check the profile and the sRGB is always greyed out - which I assume means it is the selected profile.
    Wrong

    Martin, as this is going 'Off topic' probably best to go to email now, plus you can also send screen grabs, as there appears to be a definite issue which you have highlighted in the above reply. Although I'm away, this afternoon has been cut short due to poor waether so i'm on line. Can you PM me with your email address.

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    Rachel,
    here is cooler version


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    Hi Martin - for me, this "cooler" version is better. This has an embedded sRGB profile. The red channel isn't blown. I would still drop the red saturation a bit. The highlights are still a bit bright and should be tamed some more. There's a blue cast in the shadows that I would reduce. Finally, I would apply some additional sharpening to the eye area and horns. Let's see what other suggestions some of the Nikon masters have.

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    Matin, not ure if this helps and I'm still away, but taking your OP, giving the file an sRGB profile, then importing it into LR, I tried to establish a Mid Grey point to get a balance of overall colour. The mid grey values were 50.9 l 50.6 l 49.8 and this is the initial outcome. Going warmer or colder is personal choice, but getting a mid grey value at the beginning of your PP work is helpful. Also just watch your Blacks in the shadow areas they are clipping a bit.

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    Nice job Steve. Really appreciate the help. As you say, warmer or colder is a personal choice. I like cool images and think that too many have the colour boosted to try and create impact.
    What you have here is almost identical in warmth to the canvas I have hanging in my office.

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