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    Green Sea Turtle on a beach in Borneo. This was early morning, sun just at the horizon!

    What I did. This time I approached this turtle in a different way as the other one posted a while ago. USM from start up, Levels, Curve, Lumo mask for a few things, especially to darken down the BG. Was way to shiny for me and to bright. Turned down the green leaves quite a bit. Contrast on the turtle only with Lumo and Tonal contrast, only turtle at the end Levels.
    This is a FF image,no crop at all. Would have loved to get a turtle from more the front while going into the water. But when I was in front once the turtles change their direction even that I was 10m away. This was against me, so I have only more side view images of them and a ruined mobile from sea water.

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    Hi Anette - nice low angle and light. The reds seem a little strong but that may be more a function of the warm, early morning light. I would consider going to a 16x9 crop eliminating the shadow at the bottom. Looks like you had a nice morning with these turtles.

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    Hi Anette, I like the warm light in this image.

    Personally I would prefer the turtle to be placed more to the right, with then more space on the LHS, seems to balance better IMHO? Do you think the almost 50/50 split horizontally works, or should there be less above or below?

    If you have issues with BKG & FG then can use a simple technique of using two images and combining, more control, easy to do and a better result because you are using RAW images, not TIFF's with pixels. If you add a little bit more mid tone and add some more sharpening to the subject there is more detail you can get from it and it looks good. Again, like Jon's image, just watch the amount of NR applied to the BKG if you have applied some, it looks very smooth.

    Love to see these in the wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Kaluski View Post
    Hi Anette, I like the warm light in this image.

    Personally I would prefer the turtle to be placed more to the right, with then more space on the LHS, seems to balance better IMHO? Do you think the almost 50/50 split horizontally works, or should there be less above or below?
    Turtle more to the right in the image. Hmm, she was going to the right and turned her head to me during sliding along the beach. With that thought I tried the crop tool with all sorts of crops in PS. You are right. Looks better. Taking out the shadow on the bottom with the crop comes along automatic and as rachel suggests Pano looks better.
    The 50/50 is not quite ideal, and less below, due the crop to put her more to the right, above BG will go as well quite a bit

    just watch the amount of NR applied to the BKG if you have applied some, it looks very smooth.
    I checked the files, I did not apply any NR in PS. I did pull the slider in LR for Luminance to 25. Might a bit to high for the MKIII ! I checked LR, when I pulled the slider down to 20-23 na ja, not what I like! But will pull it back a bit.

    Thanks so much Steve and Rachel for your suggestions, and for sure those lovely questions Steve

    Have a great weekend

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    I like the turtle very much but I think the background has gone awry. The periphery of the leaves is in great contrast to the centre. I am not sure I follow the processing logic you adopted. Was the USM for contrast or sharpening?
    You have obviously put a lot of thought and work into the image I don't mean to appear unappreciative but sometimes I think there is a temptation to do too much, in general I adopt the philosphy that less is more.
    In this case I Steve's comment caught my eye and I try not to read previous comments, nevertheless I would have probably made two raw conversions and layered them, this would have minimised or removed any necessity for several adjustment layers.

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    I like the low angle and the composition looks okay for my tastes. I like the picture as posted but there is a lot of dark shadows in the BG trees that might be contributing to the appearance of too much NR. I see that you did darken the BG a bit but perhaps a touch of S/H to break up some of the dark spots might help.

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    Hi Jonathan & Steve,

    thank you very much for your comments I highly appreciate them.
    Jonathan USM was for contrast.
    When I have the time today I will do the blending with a second image :))

    Thanks so much again for all your comments

    Have a fantastic week, it is Monday

    Ciao
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    Here a RP pf the Green Sea Turtle

    Jonathan & Steve K. this time I did blend a second image just the BG. Works great for me. I did USM for details and tonal contrast. Turned down the Highlights a bit beside the r & l as well added a Vibrance Mask. Mid-tone contrast and Levels at the end a bit NR for the BG.
    The crop I did the way it was appealing to me the most. Since it was going quite down the hill/beach, this crop I liked the most.
    WDYT?

    Thank you all very much for all your great comments.

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    Hi Anette, I like the repost much better. The BG is a lot smoother, and now supports the turtle in the composition instead of being a distraction. I also like how you removed the shadow from the FG. Nice low angle and early morning light.

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    The RP works well now Anette, but playing 'Devils Advocate' how about a third layer to deal with the FG sand, to retain a hint more detail & form?
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    Thank you very much John, Highly appreciate your comment

    Steve, I had such a laugh. You really want to push me up the Eiger north wall. Oh geeeez, I tried it with the FG, but it did not work as I wanted too with the light. The shadow was than to bright or still could be seen as slightly shadow. Will try this on a quiet day further!!!
    Since PS has such nice tools called content aware, healing brush, clone tool and all sorts of that, I used them. They need to be used, I payed for them Would be a shame not to
    Thanks so much Steve. Will bring a few Milk Bars along when I see you

    Have a great evening with or without a G&T

    Ciao
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    I would love a G&T.

    Yes, I am pushing you, in that way you build on what can be achieved, however if you don't like the result or it doesn't work then you have explored things and comfortably know it has potentially reached the end, but I bet in 5 months time you will find you can perhaps still do more with the knowledge you learn between now & then. Just remember, when you using the tools in PS your are probably working on a TIFF, a pixel based image, this is why I say, do as much as you can in RAW, albeit you can still export without potentially it not being a Tiff as you know, but limited.

    Look at it this way, it might at first be like using the West flank & West Ridge when climbing the Eiger, it's a very complex and a difficult route (like process can be at times), but once you have conquered the climb, you have the experience to go further. By pushing ourselves at times we learn what we can achieve from our images and unlock what we have captured.
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    Have a G&T, no one holds you back of not having a G&T. Had mine already earlier, before dinner and Noah's Ark walk

    Thank you sooooo much for pushing me. ( more Milk bars ) For sure I will go that path. I want to learn more.
    I do as much I can in RAW but for sure more can be done. Learning more about LR already. I will try the blending again with the FG. I wasn't satisfied but also had not to much time today on my hands.
    When I reach the top of the Eiger I will hang up their my flag not a Swiss flag though

    Have a great evening, feel sorry for you that you did not have yet a G&T or Milka bar

    Ciao
    Anette

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