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    Default Tight Elephant seal

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    This time a very tight portrait of this big animals.

    Hope you like it.

    Canon EOS 1D MK IV
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    EF 5,6 ; ISO 2000 ; 1/1600 sec

    Processed in RPP and PS ; slight crop for composition from top and rhs

    Thanks for watching and giving a comment.

    Cheers Andreas


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    Hi Andreas - I tend to like tight portraits and this is no exception. Nice detail and low pov. I would however crop out about half the wedge of oof ground at the bottom.

    TFS,
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    Hi Andreas, going tight occasionally can prove interesting and offer the viewer a different perspective and insight to the subject.

    Having a very diffused FG/BKG works to help separate the subject and draw the eye in (no pun intended), but I just find the composition not quite grabbing me and I'm not quite sure why? In addition the area around the eye should have more definition/detail, especially under the eye so you see the folds/wrinkles and the area that curves in the inner eye is just solid black, albeit in shadow. Perhaps some selective adjustments may help, but what does the RAW look like around there? The eye has detail, depth & some reflection which is good, but if the focus point was on the eye, where it should be, I would have expected more sharpness/clarity, where as the nose looks a little over sharp? Where was the FP on this Andreas?

    Sorry to sound rather negative on this Andreas, but IMHO if you go close in, you need to have things pin sharp, however the hi res could well be, but the web size may not have converted that well? Obviously light was not good based on the ISO, so having more DOF also may not have been an option.

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    Thanks Steve and Rachel, after rewatching and rethinking , i decided a different approach, looked kind of rough.

    RP with different settings. This time ACR conversion and less B/W layer for contrast.

    WDYT ?!!

    Cheers Andreas

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    Poles apart Andreas, now that really is 'the business.'

    Stop playing with that layer, it's messing your images up!!!
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    Hey Maestro,
    just experimenting , will stay with that B/W conversion layer , but i have to look for the opacity of that layer.Do not blame that move totally !!!!!
    I think this time i was just adding layer after layer, too many i have learned .

    BTW - what means "poles apart" in this context.

    Cheers Andreas

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    'Poles apart' - BIG difference between the two.

    I think this time i was just adding layer after layer, too many i have learned .
    - Naughty step Use your layer sparingly if you have to use it and use a mask to apply where needed. - Less is more Andreas!
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    Much better but I would still get rid of some of the oof bottom.

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    Great job on the RP, Andreas, and what a difference. This image works so much better and is so life like.
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    Thanks Martina ; Rachel and again Steve.

    Steve - all the steps (layers) are masked , never applied to the whole image.But think at too high opacity ( less could be more from time to time).

    Rachel - sorry i do not see a solution for cropping, without losing my side ratio, which i love to stick to, for a pano it is too tight . So i stay, sorry , but i understand what you are saying. As many times i would call it , a compromise for me.

    Anyhow thanks for your thoughts and input, as always very much appreciated.

    Andreas

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    Excellent detail in the repost Andreas.

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    Totally agree with Steve. I have used the B&W layer method before but found it certainly doesn't work for every image AND you need to use it with much moderation
    Your RP is miles ahead of the OP.
    I'm fine with the overall comp - the little bit of red in the corner of the eye makes it for me...without that it would have been a bit lifeless
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    Hi Andreas,

    many said. I like your repost very much. Viel besser :))
    Super

    Ciao
    Anette

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