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    COSTA RICA

    Nikon D700
    Lens - Nikkor 600 f/4,
    ISO - 200
    EV - -0.3


    Last edited by Peter Kes; 12-25-2012 at 07:04 AM.
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    Hi Vikram, Interesting two tone colour to the bill, and posed against a lovely smooth BG. The plumage looks a touch underexposed, and wonder if you could tease some more detail out of it. There also seems to be a greenish cast on it too.
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    Lovely bird but I agree with Stuart on the green cast.
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    Nice pose captured, Vikram.
    It could be me but it seems to me that the bird is not sharp enough especially on the head area.
    I also would tone down the greens and as Stuart suggested, try to get some more details out of the dark area of the bird.
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    Welcome Vikram, This is actually a fine image that needed better processing and some tender loving care. For the repost I corrected the green cast with about a 75% average blur color balance, ran NIK Color Efex Pro Detail Extractor (with a Quick Selection Tool selection) and Tonal Contrast (via a Hide All Mask) on the bird only, did a bit of bill clean-up, and sharpened the face with a Quick Mask and a 15/65/0 contrast mask.

    All as described in detail in Digital Basics. You can save 15% on all NIK products (including Color Efex Pro, Silver Efex Pro, and Viveza) by following this link and scrolling down.

    I love the pose and the bird and the background. There seems to have been some foliage between you and the bird's tail and the face could have been a tad sharper--you may have focused on the back....
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    Thanks Stuart, Stan & Karl. I agree on your observations.

    Dear Arthur, thanks for the magic touch to the image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikram potdar View Post
    Dear Arthur, thanks for the magic touch to the image.
    You are welcome Vikram. I was thinking "magic" myself. But all of it is easy to learn. That's why I created "Digital Basics."
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    PS: EV-.3 does not make much sense in soft light. Were you getting any blinkies at zero or +1/3?
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    Awesome image and a lovely bird you got here , Vikram . Arthur has made it look over the top with his great PP skills . I am sure you can eke out more details with the RAW image !!
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    I beautiful image with some additional processing.

    I find the original too green and Artie's repost too magenta and there is a halo around the head.

    Both images lack the potential detail that can be recovered with deconvolution.

    Here is my try. I made some colors more neutral, some dodging, and used only curves and color balance tools in photoshop. Then I brought the image into imagesplus and ran Richardson-Lucy deconvolution with 1) 3x3 and 30 iterations then 5x5 with 3 iterations. I blended the pre-deconvolution background with the deconvolved subject and branch. Will work much better on 16-bit data, and with other setting might turn out even better. I use minimal and the very basic tools in photoshop (usually just selections and curves) and Richardson-Lucy deconvolution for most of my photo work.

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    Thanks Rakesh

    Roger thanks for the PP.

    The colors have come out nicely but the shine on the the bird looks bit unnatural.
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    Well, not having every seen one of these birds, I have no idea. What is unnatural about it? That is what is in the data, or are you saying the color balance is off?

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    Hi Roger, Thanks for your efforts on PP on my Toucan image.

    I mean to say that the bird diid not have the shine/glow on its black color back. The color balance is just slightly off.

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    Roger, please do not take this personally but the back of the bird in your repost looks plain horrible from here: pixilated and over-sharpened at best. Respectfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Roger, please do not take this personally but the back of the bird in your repost looks plain horrible from here: pixilated and over-sharpened at best. Respectfully.
    Hi Artie,
    No, I do not take it personally. I think what you mean is posterized. In raising the level on the dark bird using the compressed jpeg, I noticed the image became quite posterized. It would be much better to work with the 16-bit image. A recent example of Richardson-Lucy deconvolution is here (see pane 15}:
    http://www.birdphotographers.net/for...rs-of-Arctic-8
    Virkam, if you would like, I'll process your raw image, of a 16-bit tiff. Just email it to me.

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    Thanks for the info Roger. Image optimization will always go better when you are starting with a RAW file or a TIFF rather than a 150kb jpeg.
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    Thanks Roger and Arthur Will mail RAW file.
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    Hey Vikram, Thanks again for letting me use your image in today's blog post. You can check it out here as I added a bit of new info.
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