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    Photographed these moose along the old Denali Highway.They were looking in the direction were a younger bull was following them, finally they ran away quite quickly.

    Love the fall colors in this image and the look in the direction of the virtual bull.

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    Comments good or bad welcome as always.

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    Hi Andreas - nice to see 2 moose in one frame and I like the poses and fall colors too. The light is great too. While I am sure they were on a slope, I found the slope somewhat disconcerting. I wanted to see what it looked like if straightened. Of course, that makes it too tight all around but I was unsure from your description if you have more room in the RAW. I also opened the midtones just a fraction more as there is a lot of detail there. WDYT?

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    Hi Rachel,
    thanks for your RP.
    I like what you did to the mid tones , could be an option.
    But unfortunately i think , i do not like the straightening .It destroys completely , for my eyes, the original image.
    So i say sorry, to not accept your idea on this one.
    Maybe it is looking pleasing , if there was not the OP with the slope.

    Cheers Andreas

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    Andreas - no problem. I expected it wouldn't look right to you as you were there and know it slopes.

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    Hi Andreas, this is certainly a 'quirky' image and perhaps being on an angle, that's what makes it, was it, or did you rotate the image? The only Moose I saw there was high up grazing.

    Good to see you making your thoughts Rachel and the RP.

    I like both images, but the OP gives as I say a quirkiness to the look and feel, but having both looking in the same direction, almost mirroring each other is priceless. Interest about the mid tones, I applied a neutral/black Selective colour at 60% to both subjects and reduced the Blue by 20 and felt it gave things more contrast, goes to show how he all see things differently. Might be tempted to lose or reduce the highlights above the calf's back.

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    Hi Steve, thanks for suggestions, they work good , so i do no repost.

    Re rotation - if you remember i never rotate my images .I do not see a reason for rotating, what you see here is the original file with extension to LHS, and slight crop to get back to original size.Reason was, the calf was a bit close to the frame.

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    Hi Steve, thanks for suggestions, they work good , so i do no repost.
    Fine.

    Re rotation - if you remember i never rotate my images
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    I like the difference in height between young and adult in the OP, it is if the leveled image has lost some of the impact.

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    I like the repost better to be honest Andreas but only if you have the additional space in the RAW file, and Steve makes a good point about the midtones.

    TFS

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    Thanks Ben and Jamie for watching and commenting.

    Jamie as stated above ,there is no more space in the raw, it is FF.

    I find it kind of interesting to get two opposite opinions about the same image ,sometimes i do not understand why everything has to be leveled ,specially if there is no horizon or something similar naturally straight in an image.Think just a question if the content is fitting in the viewers eyes or not ??!!

    In this case ,i did not even get the idea to straighten something, main reason will be i took the image and have been at the location.

    Anyhow like all your comments and thoughts as always, helping to get different views to the subject,

    Cheers Andreas

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    Hi Andreas,

    This shot is sufficiently "off the wall" that I can't help but like it! It really makes me smile!

    I prefer the OP with the ground at an angle, but would like a little more room above the adult - just a bit too tight!

    Thanks for the smile!

    Gerald

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Liedmann View Post
    I find it kind of interesting to get two opposite opinions about the same image ,sometimes i do not understand why everything has to be leveled ,specially if there is no horizon or something similar naturally straight in an image.Think just a question if the content is fitting in the viewers eyes or not ??!!
    Lovely double-pose here Andreas, and good exposure to my eyes.
    I like the diagonal lines here, assumed it was on a slope but you didn't really outright/directly state that fact until your last post. Since there's nothing to gauge the slope by, the only think one could use as a "horizon" is the OOF line in the BG which also slopes. Just better to outright state it (like I did with my wild dog who was running up a slight slope recently)

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    Like the slope and the double look back! My only "fix" might be a slightly over sharpened look to it. TFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Liedmann View Post
    Thanks Ben and Jamie for watching and commenting.

    Jamie as stated above ,there is no more space in the raw, it is FF.

    Cheers Andreas
    Whoops sorry I overlooked that Andreas


    Quote Originally Posted by Andreas Liedmann View Post
    I find it kind of interesting to get two opposite opinions about the same image ,sometimes i do not understand why everything has to be leveled ,specially if there is no horizon or something similar naturally straight in an image.Think just a question if the content is fitting in the viewers eyes or not ??!!
    I guess it's all down to personal opinion and preference Andreas. I guess levelling in some minds is the same as the rule of thirds. Critical to some but not so much to others and if you post something that breaks/pushes the rules (in some minds) then you will get a mixed reaction.

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    Think you are right Jamie, but i did not expect someone saying this looks "quirky " or not right in the viewers eyes.Simply because the angle is to steep that i could have done this by fault.But in the end it is up to all of us who post or view the images to decide whether we like it or not.

    Thanks Andreas

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