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    Default Female Spruce Grouse.

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    I had great time up in Algonquin.
    I focused mostly on two target birds: Gray Jay and Spruce Grouse.
    Here is one of the shots of a female.
    I checked for magenta cast as per Artie's method and removed it all.
    Thanks for looking.

    Canon 1D MarkIV
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    1/400 s
    tripod set to very low, close to the ground.

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    An excellent use of DOF, Beautiful texture on the feathers, detail and colours are outstanding.

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    Nice shot, how do you check for magenta cast?

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    Nice Grouse shot. This female looks in beautiful shape. I chase many species of grouse all around the U.S. but have never seen a Spruce. Are the pretty easy to get close to? Is she standing in a clearing or a dirt road?

    The pic is beautiful and the exposure and feather detail are great. Good Job.

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    The grouse is beautiful with plenty of detail. Definate posturazation in the BG.

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    That's a beauty of a "fools hen" image. To be able to study the plumage at this size with the soft light quality is a treat!
    I'm seeing the posterization here as well, mainly in the upper parts of the background....Nice job commiting to the low angle,
    it definitely works here Karl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey Hayes View Post
    Nice shot, how do you check for magenta cast?
    Thanks, Corey.
    Go to; Image-Adjustment-Hue/Saturation. C
    hange Master to Magenta.
    Pull the saturation slider to the right (+100)
    That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Zierman View Post
    That's a beauty of a "fools hen" image. To be able to study the plumage at this size with the soft light quality is a treat!
    I'm seeing the posterization here as well, mainly in the upper parts of the background....Nice job commiting to the low angle,
    it definitely works here Karl.
    Thanks, Shawn. Can you please explain what you mean; "posterization" in the background, as I'm not familiar with the term.
    Is far as I remeber I did not do anything to the background, other than running Imagenomic noise reduction, only in the background.
    The rest of the PP was done selectively to the bird as per my standard procedure.
    Meantime I checked it on the Internet.
    My answer is: I have no idea how banding took place there, in the background that is, and still have no idea what you guys see.
    Is it the camera or the lens or else or just optical illusion?
    Last edited by Karl Egressy; 10-01-2012 at 06:44 PM.

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    Karl, on my monitor, (and I really hate saying that), but, on my monitor, the area that I have circled
    shows the most obvious posterization. There are squares that actually show a pinkish tinge to them.
    How Jack sees them on his monitor would be interesting....good to no I'm not the only one who sees
    them. I don't know why you are unable to see them...Apologies for defacing your excellent image,
    just trying to show what I'm seeing....The OP was posted as 188kb size file. I wonder if you posted
    as close to 250kb if there would be any posterization visible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Zierman View Post
    Karl, on my monitor, (and I really hate saying that), but, on my monitor, the area that I have circled
    shows the most obvious posterization. There are squares that actually show a pinkish tinge to them.
    How Jack sees them on his monitor would be interesting....good to no I'm not the only one who sees
    them. I don't know why you are unable to see them...Apologies for defacing your excellent image,
    just trying to show what I'm seeing....The OP was posted as 188kb size file. I wonder if you posted
    as close to 250kb if there would be any posterization visible....
    Thank you Shawn taking your time and pointing out the problem area.
    I have a feeling that I ignored the background in PP.
    Here is a version; I removed some magenta from the background only, (already done it in the bird earlier)
    and smoothened out a line right above the head which was naturally there.
    Does it look better now?

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    I think you did a nice job on the rework, Karl. This is a super species to have in your collection and yours is sharp and interesting. I keep thinking that a trim from the left side wouldn't hurt....I'm not sure what all that empty space is addig to this particular image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace Scalzo View Post
    I think you did a nice job on the rework, Karl. This is a super species to have in your collection and yours is sharp and interesting. I keep thinking that a trim from the left side wouldn't hurt....I'm not sure what all that empty space is addig to this particular image.
    Thank you Grace. This is the original full size image.
    You are right, it would look better in 7x5 cut.

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    Hard to imagine this bird actually flying, but the reposted image sure does fly. Love the colors, texture, and d-o-f. There's some detail under your copyright that maybe you could clone out? How did you get so close?

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    Karl:
    This great creation.I like the bird with very nice colors,nice pose and great lights.
    Love it.I like the repost.
    Nice discussion on backdrop.Learned a lot.
    Regards,
    Satish.

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    Repost is rocking Karl!
    Actually, the OP was rocking....the posterization was a tiny issue, probably related to web posting only...but, on the repost it's gone.

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    Hi Karl, excellent low perspective, and I like the detail and colours. Great HA, and just love the BG. Your repost rocks, and maybe a touch off the left as Grace has stated.

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    This species is always fun to run into at Algonquin...and it's great that they let people basically walk right up to them too (hence the nickname of "fool's hen")! Great job getting low, and the reworked version without the pinkish posterization is a sure winner.

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    Great angle and back ground, i like the soft light and details shown. A great IMG. Well done !!

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    The posterized pink/magenta areas would be made worse by JPEG compression. Great idea to look at the different channels in Hue-Sat, cranking them up to look for lurking undesirable colors.

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