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    I've loved bugs since I was about 11 but I'd love to see more flowers here :).

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    Artie, this is lovely. The details and comp really draw you in. I might consider a slight touch off the bottom to clean up the LRC a little. Nicely done and I wish it were mine.

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    Hi Arthur. Cool shot, and it certainly keeps you interested! Love the detail and the hint of green LRC.

    I find flowers really challenging from a compositional point but have a few I might post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denise ippolito View Post
    Artie, this is lovely. The details and comp really draw you in. I might consider a slight touch off the bottom to clean up the LRC a little. Nicely done and I wish it were mine.
    Thanks Lady D; I had not noticed that little green smudge. How much off the bottom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Johnson View Post
    Hi Arthur. Cool shot, and it certainly keeps you interested! Love the detail and the hint of green LRC.

    I find flowers really challenging from a compositional point but have a few I might post.
    Get to it Dave!
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    Artie I like the fine detail and the techs etc spot on. The composition, well I have to admit I sometimes struggle, the "centre" is a little off centre which is a good thing - I think but I wonder if the image would have more impact if the"centre" had been placed nearer to a corner so there was a kind of radiating effect? Perhaps you had considered this and thought it was altogether too predicable to put it there? I will await with interest to see the responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Morris View Post
    Thanks Lady D; I had not noticed that little green smudge. How much off the bottom?
    Just enough to evict the teeny tiny green in the LRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Ashton View Post
    Artie I like the fine detail and the techs etc spot on. The composition, well I have to admit I sometimes struggle, the "centre" is a little off centre which is a good thing - I think but I wonder if the image would have more impact if the"centre" had been placed nearer to a corner so there was a kind of radiating effect? Perhaps you had considered this and thought it was altogether too predicable to put it there? I will await with interest to see the responses.
    Thanks Jon. Your thinking is pretty much right on. I can add that if I place the center towards the corner nearer to a rule of thirds spot I would have had to have gotten much tighter and lost a lot of the pattern....
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    Quote Originally Posted by denise ippolito View Post
    Just enough to evict the teeny tiny green in the LRC.
    Thanks again Lady D. Even a small crop from the bottom upset the delicate compositional balance so I covered the green with a Quick Mask that needed a 1 pixel Gaussian Blur so that it did not look too sharp; that corner has some d-o-f fall-off in sharpness.
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    Repost looks more complete and better. Interesting exchange with Jon. It seems so tempting to move center a bit more to a corner. I bet it looks great at full size.

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    Looks great Artie!

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    Thanks both. The compositional balance here is quite delicate....
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    Art, Curious to know why you shot this at F/9...

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    It seemed like a good idea at the time. What did you have in mind?
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    I was wondering if you were after maximum sharpness since 85% of the image appears sharp with DOF fall off on the bottom. Going to F/22 might have solved some of the fall off if that is what you were after.
    Other than that I feel it's a strong image...

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    Might have, but I was obviously working with a curved surface. As there was a gentle breeze I would have needed a lot higher ISO for f/22.
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    I liked this image as soon as I opened it. I really like the dof you have here in the center with the cool looking obelisks. I personally would crop just a small tad from the top to bring the eye into those obelisks even more.

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    Great details, colors and texture to this capture. I wish the center of the flower weren't so centered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Scarr View Post
    Great details, colors and texture to this capture. I wish the center of the flower weren't so centered.
    Me too but there was no other place to put it as far as I could figure .
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