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    Canon 7D Canon 100-400L IS ISO 400-0.3 1/1000sec f6.3

    These goats have been living "wild" for over 120 years on the Great Orme which is a promontory in North Wales.
    All C&C welcome.

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    As I recall these are Kashmir Goats, it is too long ago to remember the last time I was up there

    Presumably you were there for the birds?

    Nice composition here and good poses from the goats, it looks a little light on my screen and may benefit from a touch of contrast.

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    Hi Jonathan, nice to see you venturing into this part of the Forum.

    I like the placement of the subjects in frame, especially with Dad making his move down, although perhaps moving the whole crop down a tad more might help, but personal taste. The image overall does look a little 'thin' and therefore needs depth to the overall composition. A simple way is Double processing which having explain to a few member here, seems to work for them. Gives you control and simple, but again, I can't remember if you use DPP or ACR. If it's DPP forget it sadly. Or you can use Channels, Levels & Curves and build the image that way, but it does take a little bit of time plus you need to do simple Blends & masks.

    By doing so there is some nice, additional detail that comes out of the Adults coat, but the 'kids' coats looks to contain a lot less detail sadly. The cliff rock then has more depth & detail too which is a lovely backdrop to the whole image. I would also look to applying more selective USM to the parent and part of the facing rock he is on, plus selectively reducing the Yellow.

    Overall it's a lovely image that just needs a little more work to take it up a gear and to where it needs to be.

    Hope to see more of your images over here soon.

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    Hi Jonathan - Nice comp and I like the inclusion of the flowers and bit of color in the llc. Good suggestions above for taking this up a notch. I also think it needs some additional sharpening.

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    Thanks everyone for your comments, Ken I was over there giving my mum an airing, she fancied a day out and I was on the look out for the goats, unfortunately when I found them someone walked right up to them and they scuttled off. Rachel I will look at the sharpening again, Steve - haven't a clue about double processing?? Do you have a reference, meantime I will do a google.

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    I like the juxtaposition of the male & the kids. The flowers are a nice touch. I think Steve makes some excellent points & suggestions. I really like the granite BG & the rock that the male is on because of the lichens. Additionally, the sprig of green in the ULC is another nice touch. I like the diagonal lines of the rocks also. Overall, a really neat image. TFS.
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    What a great environment capture and wonderful story you have captured here. I do wish to see more on the bottom and possibly a tad less on top. The goats could use some more sharpening. The flowers and lichen are a huge plus here.
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    Thanks very much for the C&C everyone, sharpening appears to be the common theme, this has taken me by surprise but I will review this for my next post.

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    Nice scene here Jonathan. I presume Steve meant to process the RAW file twice, once for better shadow detail and once for better highlight detail.
    I agree with the sharpening issue here.
    My crop suggestion would be to crop form the top so that the space between the top-of-frame and mother goat is more-or-less equal to the space between the bottom-of-frame and the kids.
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