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    I just have to concede to Chas and Tinman they got some superb action shots, up close and personal, but I still have some I'd love to get some feedback on.
    I was just a bit further away.
    We too were in the river up to our thighs and the bears were directly across but the distance was greater away and I have had to crop them up to 50%.
    Such as this one. I like the action but I'm concerned I may have cropped this one too much with an ISO of 1600, even with the new 5D III. Very low ceiling and light that day.
    F 6.3, 1/1600, F4 500 plus 1.4 III C
    As stated, about 50% crop, lightroom 4, CS 5, and Nik 4.
    Concerned about the noise and IQ, if I sharpen it more afraid I'll have too much halo effect.
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    I know I"m still uncomfortable deciding when to quit sharpening and when not. Used to be told I did too much, wondering if the pendulum is swinging the other way.

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    IQ as posted doesn't look too bad to me Stan. Overall, looks a bit dark (also not showing up as sRGB for me). I'd brighten it up just a touch (right side levels, not S/H). Chas and Tin have been posting some great shots but it's nice to see this wider perspective as well. Might boost the sharpening just a touch on the face and left shoulder, wouldn't touch the water droplets as they get too "crinkly" for my taste, but can also accept as posted. Looks like it might've been a touch breezy this day?

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    Hi Stan, Steve has made some very good observations and knowing his use of high ISO, useful advice too. Actually FYI your last post was RGB too.

    I like the wide aspect too, as it gives context to the subject. There is a nice low POV and good placement within the frame of the subject, cropping looks good. Stan at ISO1600 the 5D can take it, I took some stuff at ISO 6400 with the 1DX which others have seen here, the IQ is excellent, so do not worry about being dark or high ISO. Just push the boundaries, nothing to lose and you could gain 'that shot'! As Steve mentioned, you could add another round or two of USM on the bear, be careful not to make the water look too sharp and look to dropping both the Red & Magenta in the River, this might also come from the file not being sRGB, so difficult to judge. I would also move the RHS slider in, as a Levels adjustment, to the left, say 240 ish.

    Stan keep doing what you are doing and hopefully each time you post, the feedback will help you move/develop onto that next stage and that Chas's images, likewise Tin Man's will give you inspiration and ideas for the future, but he does have a nice once chasing/running though the water I saw yesterday. Good luck & enjoy.

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    Stan, how about something like this. This is incorporating what I have suggested, but also dropped some saturation in the BKG, dropped a little less blue in the water and ONLY applied a small amount of USM to the face. View this in PS, might help.

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    Looks very nice Steve, will make the corrections. Going to have to redo my action for posting, not sure why it's quit setting to sRGB.

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    Stan,

    This would make a killer vertical. You can keep the bear smaller in the frame, just make the comp work.

    Chas

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    Going to have to redo my action for posting, not sure why it's quit setting to sRGB.
    Stan, if you still have issues let me know, I bet it's something everyone misses.
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    Hi Stan,
    basically i like the image as is, with some good tweaks by Steve.
    In cases like your "problems" with sharpening offer others your raw and we will see what each of the interested PP professionals will make out of it.
    If you do it on your own, just try and try and try , that helps a lot.I can tell you i spend , now months in finding a way that makes me happy.So far i am not at the end , but think i am on a good way.

    Cheers Andreas

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    A wonderful capture, Stan, and Steve's repost has taken it to the next level. Really like the low POV and the inclusion of the varied environment.
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    Low POV works great.

    Agree with Chas that vertical is the way to go here.

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    Here's my repost based on suggestions.
    I backed off any saturation on this hence the less red tinge to the bear, it could be added fairly easily but the current color is more what the bear was.
    I can add more water below but would have to add canvas to go higher but I thought she looked good as she sat.
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    Hi Stan, good call by Chas on going vertical and I like the idea of having more water and less BKG above. I might even consider a 1 degree CW rotation, and it still can do with a Levels adjustment as previously mentioned. Wonder if you could go less central, with less to the LHS? Image still flagged as RGB.
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    Stan,

    Very brave of you to continue, vey admirable,

    The vertical works much better IMHO!

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