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    Hi Folks another try with high ISO shot of the same rhino as previous posting.

    Let me know your thoughts on this one. Better then the last ?

    I think just a question of more and delicate PP work.

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    F8 / 1/800sec / ISO 6400

    Processed in RPP + PS cropped to 65 % of FF

    Critics very much welcome good or bad

    Cheers Andreas

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    Andreas,

    This is far better than your first post, but I believe it still needs some subtle noise reduction on the Rhino and more brutal on the BG.
    The colour seems quite warm to me, but it could have been I was not there.

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    Hi Andreas, I think it looks pretty good. I would like to see the saturation toned down a bit...I would be keen to get the RAW from you and try my hand at the PP also to see the noise at that ISO from the 1D4...If you dont mind sending it to me at dumay@usa.com

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    Hi Andreas, no question, it's certainly better than the previous posting and great to see how you are developing things, very positive.

    I think just a question of more and delicate PP work.
    Yep, that is what I have been saying, you are at that level where just some simple refinements make all the difference.

    As to the image, perhaps a slight -10 (optional amount) in Saturation might be better (?), but would add some slight Curves adjustment to give it some 'pop' too, otherwise looks good to me. Like the raised foot in 'trotting' mode, plumes of dust and the slight look to camera.

    also to see the noise at that ISO from the 1D4...
    Dumay when I get a chance I'll fwd the 1DX at 6400 too.
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    Thanks Steve...Looking forward to it!

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    Hi Andreas
    I have been doing game watching and photography since 1956 in S Africa and the surrounding territories. I do not recall that rhinos are as reddish as your image portrays. I realize that the sun is low and that a red cast is probably expected and is reflected in the rest of the image. However I do not understand the effect of high ISOs on color rendition. What would the scene have looked like if you used an ISO of 200 as you were photographing a rhino on a slow stroll and did not need the fast exposure times?

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    Thanks folks for your comments, try to think about your suggestions.

    Ken - if you have been to Etosha as you obviously documented by posting images from there, you must have noticed at Chudop WH in the evening , if the conditions are good you get this kind of warm colors specially if there is a lot of dust in the air, that was the case when i took the images of the rhino and elephants .

    Andre - for sure the Rhinos in Etosha are not red , not even if they had a dust bath. The soil in Etosha is more dirty white or light brownish, so the animals look more or less like this.The colors here are a result of my PP, basically the raw file look the same from color point of view.Just a matter of my taste which way to process them , more or less saturated.I think it would make no difference with another camera setting. If i look at the colors today ,from different postings , many times i see colors from different color slide films.Some guys process like KODAK other like FUJI just to name the 2 big ones.

    So in the end it is up to the photographer which way to go in terms of color and contrast, just personal taste.

    Cheers Andreas

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    Big improvement processing wise over the last post Andreas. Nice PP work.

    Jamie

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    Hi and hello ,
    changed the OP with SAT -5 (not 10) + added a curves layer with linear preset as Steve suggested .

    I like it . WDYT? But if i have to decide i cannot honestly say which one is "better".

    Andreas

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    This one, as well as similar previous rhinos and reposts of them, the color is so warm-orange that I have trouble accepting it as real. My problem I suppose .
    Tom

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    Andreas,

    The re-post really does not solve the problem for me it is still way too red and noisy.

    As to my experience of Chudup waterhole late at night, I have none preferring to spend the last hours of the evening at Klein Namutoni, where I cannot imagine the light would be much different

    I know you cannot undo the settings but like Andre wonder how much better the image could have been with a far lower ISO?

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    Hi Andreas, looks good to me, it's just defined things a little more, without going 'over the top'.

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    Great capture at such a high ISO. I have experienced a nightmare dealing with noise at that level.

    I would agree that the colours seem a little off. Once option if you did changed the WB would be to darken the surroundings, bar the rhino. That would really help it to stand out, even if the colour was slightl cooler.

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    Thanks folks for your comments on all the stuff around this image, doesn`t matter what "problem" there is , i like it as is now. Maybe in the future i will try to address the noise a bit more, i am sure i will find a way to solve this. I will work hard on this.

    I just love this saturated colors , believe or not. Real or unreal does make no difference to me, that is how i remember this glowing colors that evening.

    Kind regards Andreas

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