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Phil Seu
04-17-2008, 05:36 PM
nikon d300, 300/2.8 + 2.0 TC. 1/800 @ f/11.0. ISO 400. uncropped.

Harold Davis
04-17-2008, 05:50 PM
that is nice, phil!!! i would trim a tad off the bottom though.

Fabs Forns
04-17-2008, 05:51 PM
Lovely pose and great exposure. Good placement on the frame.
There's something funny going on around the bill maybe some cloning?

Arthur Morris
04-17-2008, 05:57 PM
Good suggestions by Harold and Fabs. In addition, if you could have gotten even lower, you could have placed the bird completely against the water. And I do see the big halo around the bill that Fabs mentioned! Very sharp. I like the diagonal line in front of the bird and the shadow as well, but would love to have seen the complete shadow.

Phil Seu
04-17-2008, 06:44 PM
thanks for the comments.

nothing was done around the beak. I seem to get this a lot at high contrast borders in my pictures?? suggestions would be appreciated.

phil

Jim Poor
04-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Did you use Shadow Hightlight in CS3 or any exposure adjustments in you RAW converter?

The light diagonal line confuses my eyes really bad for some reason.

Philip Lombard
04-17-2008, 06:52 PM
Very nice shot agree with the nits.

Arthur Morris
04-17-2008, 06:59 PM
thanks for the comments. nothing was done around the beak. I seem to get this a lot at high contrast borders in my pictures?? suggestions would be appreciated. phil

I am no expert in this area but I would bet that the halo came from something that you did (whether you realize it or not...) To be sure, and I would bet you on this, simply take a look at the converted TIFF; I would wager a lot to not much that there will be no halo there...:D

Phil Seu
04-17-2008, 07:18 PM
I went back to the RAW image (halo not present) and watched for it through my work flow. It occurs if I increase exposure during RAW conversion (adobe raw converter) or when i use the shadow/highlight adjustment in CS3.

you guys (and gals) are really good.

thanks

phil

Arthur Morris
04-17-2008, 07:30 PM
I went back to the RAW image (halo not present) and watched for it through my work flow. It occurs if I increase exposure during RAW conversion (adobe raw converter) or when i use the shadow/highlight adjustment in CS3.you guys (and gals) are really good. thanks phil

OK, pay up! It is most likely coming from Sh/H not from the EXP change in CS3. Make that definitely not. And YAW. We know of what we speak :).

Jim Poor
04-17-2008, 07:41 PM
Yes, the most common culprit is Shadow Highlight. I did notice that Aperture 2 was introducing halos when I used fill light or black level adjustments. I haven't noticed the problem with Lightroom, and I don't use ACR or capture NX.

Gus Cobos
04-17-2008, 08:12 PM
Nice exposure and composition.and great details. love the background...:D

Raul Quinones
04-17-2008, 10:04 PM
Great picture, nice colors and good sharpness. I am curious to see a repost without the halos for comparison.

Glenn Bartley
04-17-2008, 11:31 PM
A pretty classic shorebird image. Well done.