View Full Version : Two interpretations: Burned out church

David Kennedy
03-23-2008, 02:18 PM
Canon 5D & 24-70 f/2.8L @ 24mm, Really Right Stuff MPR-CL II
Exposed 1/400 sec. at f/8, ISO 160
Nine vertical captures stitched together with Autopano Pro
Church of Prince Williams Parish, Sheldon, S.C. (burned by British forces in the Revolutionary War and again by Union troops in the Civil War)

After assembling this image I spent a few hours tinkering with its presentation. Specifically, modifying the colors and shadows with Curves & Selective Color. By the time I was done, I began to wonder: how would this look in black & white? Now I'm not sure which version I should prefer! I come from such a color-oriented view of the world that I have difficulty "seeing" in black and white and therefore I never compose for it. Such thoughts of black & white are always after-the-fact, and I'm never quite sure if they're appropriate for the subject or not. In this case, I like the color version, but I think I might like the b&w version even better (I will post it below momentarily as I can only post one image per posting). All feedback is greatly appreciated!

David Kennedy
03-23-2008, 02:19 PM
Same image as above, but with a b&w treatment and sepia tone.

Dave Phillips
03-23-2008, 02:39 PM
you drew me in David.
I like the color as it is what I would expect to see, however it makes it appear as a modern day view of an old ruin
On the other hand, the sepia takes me back in time as a viewer.....it's more an image "of the time"

hope that makes sense...as a big wallhanger, I prefer the sepia

Todd Frost
03-23-2008, 09:37 PM
While both versions are good, I too prefer the sepia tone.

Maxis Gamez
03-24-2008, 05:10 AM
Terrific. I like both!

David Kennedy
03-24-2008, 12:15 PM
Terrific. I like both!

If you had to pick one, which would it be?

Gayle Clement
03-24-2008, 12:17 PM
I like the sepia one much more, David. I find the shadows a bit distracting in the color version and in the sepia version they add to the mood.

Gerald Kelberg
03-27-2008, 04:00 AM
My first reaction was to choose the B&W/sepia; but then on reflection and closer viewing, I felt that the tones in the structure were too close to the foliage in the background trees, so there isn't enough separation between the two - particularly in the just left of centre area. I like the composition, and think it works best in the colour version.


Harold Davis
03-27-2008, 03:06 PM
i'm a softie for b&w anyway and this scene's time signature lends itself to b&w. i like the b&w. great job with the pano and the compo. also great job with the light in the b&w.

Jim Poor
03-28-2008, 08:13 AM
I much prefer the color version of this one. Neat!

gary rouleau
03-28-2008, 01:05 PM
I prefer the b&W version, its more dramatic.


Judd Patterson
03-28-2008, 09:47 PM
I have to go with the color version on this one...for me the B&W just looses that special quality of light that is evident in the color. Nice work David! I really like the 'outside' showing through all the arches as well as the unique arches shadows.

Paul Pagano
03-29-2008, 10:16 AM
For me this works better in color. For this image, the b&w just doesn't put me in 'days gone by' which is what I like most about b&w images.

David Kennedy
03-30-2008, 03:24 AM
Wow, thank you for all of the input! I'll admit that I think I liked the idea of the black and white version more than it's implementation. I think Gerald put into words the problem that I felt existed but couldn't identify with the b&w version. I think b&w is something I'd like to explore more often, but I'm never quite sure when to use it.


David Steele
04-01-2008, 01:15 PM
I love B&W but for this image colour rules!

John Wilkerson
04-02-2008, 10:26 PM
David I love the black and white. I live near New Orleans and there is a contest taking entries there that this one is made for. Its called Abstractions in the landscape. You can find out more here http://www.neworleansdarkroom.com/gallery/landscape/call.html
I think it fits well in the contest.

Gus Cobos
04-15-2008, 11:54 AM
Hey David,
BLACK and WHITE all day long for this capture. B&W sets a different tone and mood.
Like it very much...:D

Beth Goffe
04-15-2008, 02:47 PM
David, I prefer the B&W as well. I appreciate the mood and it draws me in more than the color version. I feel like I can just sit and stare at it.

Arthur Morris
06-15-2008, 03:48 AM
Hey David, I prefer the B&W here. You know, however, that I do not like filtered light for birds, and in both images the shadows bug me, especially those falling on the outer edges of the two walkways(???) in the foreground... Go back on a cloudy day <smile>