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Troy Lim
11-01-2010, 07:56 AM
http://www.troylimphotography.com/photos/1072073481_QompY-L.jpg

Exposure 0.006 sec (1/160)
Aperture f/7.1
Focal Length 600 mm
ISO Speed 1600
Exposure Bias 0 EV
Flash On, Return detected

Doug Brown
11-01-2010, 08:05 AM
The ruffled body feathers look really nice, and the preening pose works well. I might try to boost mid-tone contrast and perhaps saturation a little.

Troy Lim
11-01-2010, 08:06 AM
The ruffled body feathers look really nice, and the preening pose works well. I might try to boost mid-tone contrast and perhaps saturation a little.

Thanks for the suggestion, Doug. Will do.

Bill Dix
11-01-2010, 08:40 AM
Hi Troy. Great pose and background. I agree a bit of contrast boost might help. I wonder if another stop down might have also helped.

Jim Crosswell
11-01-2010, 09:10 AM
Great pose and detail on top of the head. I like the hint of grass at the bottom of the BG. Well done Troy.

Arthur Morris
11-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Love the layered look of the neck feathers. Everyone is missing the big problem here.

Any guesses?

Troy Lim
11-01-2010, 09:28 PM
Love the layered look of the neck feathers. Everyone is missing the big problem here.

Any guesses?


I can guess, ideal angle would have been parallel with the sensor, that means I have to move to the right a bit more?

Arthur Morris
11-01-2010, 09:35 PM
See Panes #222-230 on the last page of this thread:

http://www.birdphotographers.net/forums/showthread.php?69803-Head-Angle-Fine-Points&p=588626#post588626

More folks should be playing :)

Our last quiz, AC or AD addresses the issue I am referring to. I say often that the Educational Resources Forum is our most under-utilized....

ps; In this case moving to the right would have helped only a bit.

Let me know what you think after checking out the Head Angle Fine Points thread above.

Troy Lim
11-01-2010, 09:40 PM
See Panes #222-230 on the last page of this thread:

http://www.birdphotographers.net/forums/showthread.php?69803-Head-Angle-Fine-Points&p=588626#post588626

More folks should be playing :)

Our last quiz, AC or AD addresses the issue I am referring to. I say often that the Educational Resources Forum is our most under-utilized....

ps; In this case moving to the right would have helped only a bit.

Let me know what you think after checking out the Head Angle Fine Points thread above.


Thanks, Artie, that was helpful.
So in this case, other than moving to the right, should I have gone a bit lower?

Arthur Morris
11-02-2010, 08:31 AM
In an ideal world righter and lower would have been good but the trick is to watch the bird's head as it will be moving and the plane of the face and bill will be changing almost constantly. Once you are aware of the principles involved you can learn to press the shutter button at the exact right instant just by knowing what you are looking for.

Troy Lim
11-02-2010, 08:55 AM
In an ideal world righter and lower would have been good but the trick is to watch the bird's head as it will be moving and the plane of the face and bill will be changing almost constantly. Once you are aware of the principles involved you can learn to press the shutter button at the exact right instant just by knowing what you are looking for.

Thank you Artie. Something that I really to pay attention to.

Arthur Morris
11-02-2010, 09:17 AM
YAW. Here is a photo caption from ABP II (https://store.birdsasart.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=19)(916 pages on CD only):

left:
Brown Pelican preening
LaJolla, CA
Canon 600mm f/4L IS with EOS-1D
Mark II. ISO 250. Evaluative Metering
+1/3 stop: 1/2000 sec. at f/4.

When I am using the 600 lens, I use it with a teleconverter about 90 percent of the time. Here, I should have chosen a smaller aperture to sharpen the feathers in the lower right corner. When making photos of preening birds, always strive to make images in which the bird’s head is roughly parallel to the imaging sensor.