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Doug Brown
01-27-2009, 10:22 AM
Photographed from Jim Neiger's boat during a recent workshop. He piloted the boat to give us an angle with the fewest weeds around the bird and the best sun angle. I chose not to clean up the beak because it helps demonstrate the feeding behavior.

http://birdwhisperer.smugmug.com/photos/453948248_fnCo3-O.jpg

Canon 50D, 500mm, f/5.6, 1/1600, ISO 400, manual exposure, no flash, hand held from boat

Axel Hildebrandt
01-27-2009, 10:26 AM
Great angle, details and the snails add to it. I might be tempted to clone out the grass.

Doug Brown
01-27-2009, 10:35 AM
I toyed with the idea but it looked too sterile without habitat.

Roman Kurywczak
01-27-2009, 10:48 AM
Hey Doug,
I looked at this and thought......really nice with the kite and he had the b***s to include the habitat! I agree with you.......it adds to the scene and makes it seem less sterile.....especially with the feeding on the snails! Just super for my tastes!

Dave Mills
01-27-2009, 10:54 AM
This is one fine image...A Snail Kite with snails!!!!shot in beautiful light, great exposure,head position and sharp.
The faint reeds are fine with me since they do give a sense of place without competing with the bird. I love this image!!!

Ramon M. Casares
01-27-2009, 11:29 AM
I am trying to get this kind of images of this wonderfull birds for a while but with no results, I think this shot is superb, great moment and wonderfull exposure and ambient/BG, here´s a respot with some levels adjustments. Hope you don´t mind. Congratulaitons!

Doug Brown
01-27-2009, 11:34 AM
I think the BG is an improvement, but the bird now looks too contrasty and dark.

Rene Quenneville
01-27-2009, 01:05 PM
Beautiful image. I like the repost better. I would also clone the weeds.

Mike Tracy
01-27-2009, 02:46 PM
Since I slip my boat on the lake I am keenly aware of their habitat so I would keep the grass. Looks like you found him after the good light and I would de sat. the eye.

Finding one with a snail out in the open is always a bonus.

Marina Scarr
01-27-2009, 02:57 PM
As you know by now, these raptors are very difficult to photograph. Since this is a habitat and behavior shot, I would leave the grass in the photograph. I also prefer the repost, as I thought the color on the original was a bit off. If you prefer less contrast, maybe somewhere in the middle of the two. The detail on the apple snail is amazing. Great capture!

Doug Brown
01-27-2009, 03:08 PM
Here's my version of a repost along the lines of what Ramon did. Better or worse?

Roman Kurywczak
01-27-2009, 03:26 PM
Hey Doug,
didn't think it could look better.....but I was wrong! Nice re-post!

Maxis Gamez
01-27-2009, 03:36 PM
Doug,

Great image. I would tone down the eye. Just a thought

Mike Tracy
01-27-2009, 03:41 PM
I like the repost much better but the eye is too vibrant.

Dave Mills
01-27-2009, 04:42 PM
Doug...good job on the repost. You made a 4 star image 4 1/2

John Blumenkamp
01-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Awesome capture Doug... great to see those snails with this impressive bird!

P.S. I sent you a PM awhile back about your visit to Utah... hopefully we can cross paths and meet-up one day while you're here.

bill kominsky
01-27-2009, 09:37 PM
I agree with Ramón on this 100%, stunning, gorgeous, and just plain great.

Juan Carlos Vindas
01-27-2009, 10:08 PM
Great catch Doug!

I particularly prefer your repost but don't like the grass. The reason is simple, is too thin so instead of adding to the picture it distracts, just my opinion.

Krijn Trimbos
01-28-2009, 07:26 AM
Hi Doug,
Excellent shot! Love the snail and the detail in the bird. The last repost is the one for me. I would wish for a bit more headturn towards the camera and would be interested in seeing this without the grasses. Apart from that excellent!

Doug Brown
01-28-2009, 11:05 AM
Here's one last version for anyone still checking the thread. I have removed the grass and desaturated the eye a little. I'm curious which version people like best.

Krijn Trimbos
01-28-2009, 11:10 AM
Hi Doug,

As could have been expected I like the last post the best and think it is a beauty like that. Nice job on cloning out the grasses!!!

Mike Tracy
01-28-2009, 11:18 AM
I think your latest incarnation is the one to go with. I didn't mean to sound like I was harping about the eye. I have been watching these guys for years while fishing and have a sense of their coloration.

Well done.

Doug Brown
01-28-2009, 11:20 AM
And this was my first encounter with Snail Kites. I'll defer to your experience Mike.

Tony House
01-28-2009, 12:45 PM
I like the last post myself, if the grass had been in the same focus area as the bird I think it would have worked but being in front and out of focus didn't look right to me..

Great capture of a cracking looking bird....

Nice work.
Tony

Juan Carlos Vindas
01-28-2009, 01:29 PM
Here's one last version for anyone still checking the thread. I have removed the grass and desaturated the eye a little. I'm curious which version people like best.
Now we are in business. :D