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Jonathan Michael Ashton
11-14-2008, 12:02 PM
I thought this looked a little different in B&W, it works for me - what is your opinion?:cool:

Canon 20D Canon 500mm f4 L IS plus Canon 1.4TC Mk1 Gitzo plus Mongoose in a raging wind!
ISO 200 +0.33
1/250 sec @ f5.6

Thanks for looking

Jon

Judy Lynn Malloch
11-14-2008, 12:37 PM
The B&W is appealing to me and my only question would be with the horizon It appears that it needs a CW rotation.

Arthur Morris
11-14-2008, 12:39 PM
I love it; this is superb in B&W. I like the grasses, the three Grey Plovers, and what looks like a single Sanderling... Looks as if it might could use a bit of CW rotation.

Tony Whitehead
11-14-2008, 12:47 PM
Beautiful shot. Only suggestion is to lighten the 2 dark areas in the BG top right. Definitely different and definitely works for me.

Fabs Forns
11-14-2008, 12:52 PM
It looks like a beautiful illustration, and yes, it does need a bit of rotation. Well done!

Chris van Rooyen
11-14-2008, 01:37 PM
Yup, refreshingly different. Works for me

Doug Brown
11-14-2008, 01:39 PM
It's nice to see something different that works so well. I like it a lot.

Wayne Richardson
11-14-2008, 02:11 PM
Hi Jonathan

Nice B&W image of winter shorebirds.

However, most of these are Knot, with as others have mentioned, Sandeling & Grey Plover. There are some Dunlin in the image too though.

It is worth bearing in mind that, using Sanderling as a yardstick, American Dunlin are as big or bigger, but European Dunlin are smaller or much smaller. Some males of the smaller races actually overlap in size with Western Sandpiper!

Cheers: Wayne

Peregrine Craig Nash
11-14-2008, 02:34 PM
I really like this Jonathan a refreshing change. Maybe some more black and whites would be nice.

Linda Robbins
11-14-2008, 03:16 PM
I like this a lot....it really works well in black and white. Well done!

Axel Hildebrandt
11-14-2008, 03:47 PM
I like the mood, agree on CW rotation and only wish the birds were flying toward you.

Jonathan Michael Ashton
11-15-2008, 04:22 AM
Hi Jonathan

Nice B&W image of winter shorebirds.

However, most of these are Knot, with as others have mentioned, Sandeling & Grey Plover. There are some Dunlin in the image too though.

It is worth bearing in mind that, using Sanderling as a yardstick, American Dunlin are as big or bigger, but European Dunlin are smaller or much smaller. Some males of the smaller races actually overlap in size with Western Sandpiper!

Cheers: Wayne
Hi Wayne,
at first I thought the vast majority were Knot, but they have much paler coloured legs, many of these birds have dark legs and were predominantly grey in colour which was why I concluded they were mostly Dunlin as opposed to Knot. I do agree however there is a mixture of species present.

Regards rotation, I got it wrong, in fact I had to rotate the image CCW so I reckon I have overdone it a little. Thanks to everyone for your comments I really do appreciate them.

Jon

Mike Tracy
11-15-2008, 10:36 AM
Having done numerous B/W conversions in other genres I must say you nailed this one perfectly.

Wayne Richardson
11-15-2008, 08:00 PM
Hi Wayne,
at first I thought the vast majority were Knot
Jon

Your initial view was spot-on & I've taken the liberty of re-posting your image with the Dunlin (red dots) & Sanderling (yellow dots) highlighted. Even in B&W it is fairly straightforward to ID the 3 species as follows:

The larger Knot have grey rumps & delicately patterned underwings/flanks.
Sanderling (palest grey) & Dunlin (darkest grey) have pure white underwings & a dark line through rump & tail.All 3 have prominent white wing stripe, a feature that is most prominent on Sanderling.

Cheers: Wayne

Craig Markham
11-16-2008, 02:37 AM
I love it. The B&W makes the image all about the flurry of movement. Thanks for the ID key, Wayne!

Sabyasachi Patra
11-16-2008, 04:03 AM
Jonathan,
What a refreshing change. We hardly see B&W images in this forum. I used to do B&W shots during my college days but hardly see any these days, despite the ease of conversion. I like this image. The two black spots at the top seems to be houses?
Cheers,
Sabyasachi