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Adams Serra
09-22-2008, 08:51 PM
This image was made at Estero Lagoon a few weeks ago.


MKIII
F4.0
1/6400
Iso 400
600mm
Manual Exposure

All comments are appreciated

Ramon M. Casares
09-22-2008, 09:28 PM
TERRIFFIC! I love this shot, the reflexion, the pose, the exposure, the BG and colours are all great!

Maxis Gamez
09-22-2008, 09:46 PM
Gorgeous Adams. The reflection is simply fantastic. I like your composition too!

Good work!

Doug Brown
09-22-2008, 10:19 PM
Gorgeous Adams! Bird looks great, reflection is perfect, and the quality of light is just awesome.

James Salywoda
09-22-2008, 11:17 PM
So gorgeous I like everything about it....

Glenn Bartley
09-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Beautiful reflection and composition :)

Keith Bauer
09-23-2008, 09:48 AM
Your composition on this is very nice. Love the nice reflection and angle you captured this form.

Greg Basco
09-23-2008, 10:12 AM
Adams, everything looks great here -- nice image!

Cheers,
Greg

Juan Aragonés
09-24-2008, 02:55 AM
Composition can not be better, I like it a lot. Great light, pose and BG.

Marko Matesic
09-25-2008, 04:24 PM
nothing to say but wow,wow :))

Bob Blanchard
09-26-2008, 05:53 PM
I sure can't come up with anything to make this better! That reflection is just fantastic! I love your compositional choice on this. Congrats!

WIlliam Maroldo
09-26-2008, 07:03 PM
Adams: In the first place, I think the importance of BPN is using critique to help photographers become better photographers, and it is very unlikely that an image doesn't have flaws. They may very well be minor, especially here at BPN, but it is important that a "critical eye" be utilized, even if it could be called nit-picking by others. I also think that a more thorough explanation is often in order. For example: "this would look better if you cropped some off the top" isn't nearly as useful as an explanation of why this would make the image look better. Only positive comments are not necessarily useful, although I sure like to see them!
Bearing this in mind, and that it is only my opinion, here is my take on your image.
I think the reflection and the technical aspects, including sharpness and DOF control are quite good, as well as a seamless foreground/background transition. However, in my opinion, there are problems with the image. 1) the position of the bird horizontally leads to an unbalanced image 2) the almost complete disappearance of the bill doesn't look right.
About the composition: I think that dividing the image in half vertically with the bird and the bird's reflection is compositionally correct. If the symmetry is both top/bottom and right/left, placing the element in the center is the most advantageous position. However, in this case we have no right/left symmetry. Another possibility is the "rule of thirds". According to that compositional idea the bird in question would occupy either 1/3 or 2/3 of the horizontal space, and since the bird is facing left, the most empty space would be to the left. You could try it either way. If you opt for the bird occupying only 1/3 of the space(on the left) there would be more of an emphasis on the foreground/background, which I feel is a very strong aspect of the image. 2/3 occupied by the bird would, of course, put the emphasis on the bird, and neglect the background/foreground elements somewhat.
About the position of the bill: I have been confronted by this quite often, especially with dowitchers, in which their sewing machine like feeding leads to half the time the bill being submerged. So why is having the bill hidden not such a good idea? I think it is because it is leaving out an important aspect of being a bird, just as if other parts of the bird, such as the eyes, were hidden you might think the image was lacking.
regards~Bill

Adams Serra
09-28-2008, 05:37 PM
Hi Bill, Thank you for taking the time and commenting on the picture. I will play with the crop. As far as the bill goes, there is nothing i can do.

Thank you,
Adams

WIlliam Maroldo
09-28-2008, 07:16 PM
Adams, your welcome. Actually I think my main point isn't about your image in particular, and I'm sure the my details are subject to debate. Basically I'm thinking about images you may take in the future, and the composition that would have taken place in the camera. In other words, I think it a good idea that compositional ideas are running through your head while analysing the scene through the viewfinder. This is much better than cropping for composition, which can be a pain. For example; a simple shore scene with a beach, a sky, and a bird. You could use the rule of thirds to help decide where to put the horizon, and the bird for that matter. Or you might notice a strong diagonal element and use the idea of diagonal composition, etc. (note: rule of thirds, diagonal, radial, and symmetry are the main compositional ideas that seem to work).
About the bill position in your photo. I agree, not much you can do about it, and it is possible that some people actually like it the way it is. I'm not saying that the complete bill needs to be visible in all images either. I guess it is another decision you need to make in the viewfinder, and it is possible it is just my personal preference to have more of the bill showing. regards~Bill