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Mike Poole
01-07-2020, 08:50 AM
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A young seal pup that was nice and chilled out in amongst the sand dunes in Norfolk. Lying nice and still got them really relaxed around you, and they were more than happy to approach you to a degree. It was just a case of choosing one that has been weaned, so you wouldn't risk separation from a parent.

Full frame, just 2 grass stalks removed. I had others with the head higher, but I like the 'dreamy' look to the sand

Canon 1dx
500mm f4
ISO 1600
1/800th f7.1

Mike

Jonathan Ashton
01-07-2020, 10:05 AM
I like the sandy base too Mike, exposure and details spot on a really appealing image.

Andreas Liedmann
01-07-2020, 01:26 PM
Hi Mike ... gonna love the overall color and the cuteness factor here !!!Super low POV and the FG mush is generally nice , but has partially covered the subject . So in this case might have been better to shoot a sliver higher .
Techs looking good , as does the DOF . It so nice to see the people in those glassy eyes ....how many photogs stayed around the pup ?

Watch your blacks and your sharpening !!!!

Nice one .... rarely get that sweet light on Helgoland and the color of the sand .... oh i love that . Will come over by the end of the year !!!!!!

TFS Andreas

Steve Kaluski
01-07-2020, 02:41 PM
Would echo Andrea's comments here Mike.

If it was me, I would have lost the mid grey and blended in the sandy colour for uniformity around the pup. I too feel the blacks are a bit pushed so you get a bit of a 'crunchy' look around the nose and the nostril is just black with some clipping, but the light may not have been too kind???? If you used Levels Mike I would certainly back it off, or even turn it off in the Layered file to see what it's added.

TFS
Steve

Jonathan Ashton
01-07-2020, 05:18 PM
I have looked again at the image and whilst I see the blacks are perhaps a little dense I still like the blurred foreground and the interplay of the grey and the sand so I disagree and think a higher position would not have been better. The mixture of the colours I think add rather than detract.

Steve Kaluski
01-07-2020, 05:36 PM
I disagree and think a higher position would not have been better.

Hi Jon, it's just a sliver and would still retain a lot of the original qualities, but I do agree with Andreas, the blacks may not then have been so harsh offering more/greater detail???? :S3:

Sanjeev Aurangabadkar
01-07-2020, 11:16 PM
Super cute subject with at lovely beady eye and great low POV Mike. Very pleasing image.

Jonathan Ashton
01-08-2020, 06:12 AM
Hi Jon, it's just a sliver and would still retain a lot of the original qualities, but I do agree with Andreas, the blacks may not then have been so harsh offering more/greater detail???? :S3:
I see what you mean, you have a valid point but I personally like the grey and the sand rather than a monotonous appearance. Your edited version looks good especially the blacks.

Andreas Liedmann
01-08-2020, 06:36 AM
Hi Jon and Steve .... by higher i meant the " sliver" that Steve is referring to !!! Would not change the general appearance of a low angle shot .

Mike Poole
01-08-2020, 09:03 AM
Interesting conversation, I'll take on board the points regarding shooting height, even if I am happy with the result here.

However, I think we have to consider whether discussions on the lack of detail within the inside of nostrils is taking critique into 'looking for criticism' territory. There is no detail in that area of the original file - all opening up the exposure, by whichever way you deem necessary, does is introduce a speckled noisy area.

I think we need to get back on track here, looking at light, compositions, angles, rather than concentrate to the minute degree on technical criticisms. Yes, the techs are very important, and I always like to learn more, but its becoming a little weary to keep reading (not just on my threads) about the technical nuances of a shot, where no specific help is offered, instead of the overall aesthetics of a shot.

I've had a lot of help on BPN over the years, and I don't want to sound ungrateful, but I can't help but feel we're missing out on so much at present by treating each wildlife shot as a technical exercise.

Mike

Mike Poole
01-08-2020, 09:04 AM
I see what you mean, you have a valid point but I personally like the grey and the sand rather than a monotonous appearance. Your edited version looks good especially the blacks.

Hi Jon, is there an edited version somewhere that I'm not aware of? There isn't anything on the thread

Mike

John Mack
01-08-2020, 02:55 PM
I like it. With the foreground in heaven kind of look. The pose is nice. Really like the colors throughout the image as well. The low angle is spot on.