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Moe Richard
08-19-2019, 01:40 PM
Within the last two days, I posted a picture of a Dunlin that exhibited a reticular lattice pattern in some areas of the image. I will post another image in avian which has the same pattern. Both Daniel and Artie suggested I post a sky image to see if this pattern shows up. So here for this forum, I will show the two pictures in which this pattern is quite visible and a sky shot both raw and processed with my typical workflow. I see the pattern in the sky images but it is very subtle. The last three images were taken at iso-2000, 500 mm PF with 1.4 extender, F8 for the Hummingbird picture and F-16 for the sky shots. All pictures taken with D 500, tripod for the sky images, processing with DxO photolab 2 (including prime noise engine), Topaz adjust, vignette with ON1, TK sharpening action at 10%. I have sent this information along to Nikon.
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dankearl
08-19-2019, 07:33 PM
I see it on the first 2 processed bird photos, I do not see it on the f16 blank photos.
(you have a clean sensor!).

arash_hazeghi
08-20-2019, 01:21 AM
there is nothing wrong with your sensor. the last image just has vignetting that has been poorly corrected by the software you are using thus the blotches, vignetting is from the lens not the sensor and it is normal. You are using a lot of unnecessary filters in processing (topaz, vingetter prime noise etc.) these might be screwing up the files, before making a conclusion use a standard simple raw converter (Nikon capture or just the basic ACR) and just do a neutral RAW conversion.

Daniel Cadieux
08-20-2019, 06:42 AM
Hi Arash, there is definitely something going on in the first two images (not vignetting or post-processing). You have to look carefully, but there are faint square patterns in the oof areas (they do not show in the sky pictures, interestingly). See above the dunlin's back, and above the right hummer's bill. You may have to stare for a few seconds, but once you see them they are apparent.

arash_hazeghi
08-20-2019, 08:06 AM
Hi Arash, there is definitely something going on in the first two images (not vignetting or post-processing). You have to look carefully, but there are faint square patterns in the oof areas (they do not show in the sky pictures, interestingly). See above the dunlin's back, and above the right hummer's bill. You may have to stare for a few seconds, but once you see them they are apparent.


I see them now, it is odd since sensor read out is either horizontal or vertical. I'd still try to use a different RAW convertor to see if they disappear if not contact Nikon.

Moe Richard
08-20-2019, 01:34 PM
there is nothing wrong with your sensor. the last image just has vignetting that has been poorly corrected by the software you are using thus the blotches, vignetting is from the lens not the sensor and it is normal. You are using a lot of unnecessary filters in processing (topaz, vingetter prime noise etc.) these might be screwing up the files, before making a conclusion use a standard simple raw converter (Nikon capture or just the basic ACR) and just do a neutral RAW conversion.

From Nikon:
Response from Angela M.
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Thank you for contacting Nikon.


As per your email you're seeing patterns from the sensor.
This is not something that has been heard of and if you are having issues with all of your images than it might be a good idea to have your camera looked at.
I am including service information for you below.
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This is the next frame in the series processed only with DxO PhotoLab 2 for global NR, Nik Define for BG NR, and ACR for color rendition and cast removal. No blurring. No other software.



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arash_hazeghi
08-23-2019, 07:36 PM
I got Moe (David's) NEF file, the image was severely underexposed and dark I pulled up the exposure and as I expected there are no patterns.the artifacts seen is caused by the junk RAW converter and the filters, not the sensor which cannot cause square patterns.

The support gal who responded from Nikon is not an engineer and does not understand the image sensor or the read out scheme, if you send your camera in the technician or the engineer who will evaluate the camera will just confirm it is within spec and send it back to you, it would be a waste of time and shipping.

original underexposed by 2 stops


100% crop from the "problem" area RAW conversion + 2.5EV capture one pro, no artifacts. your camera is good.

hope this helps.

Daniel Cadieux
08-24-2019, 06:32 AM
Thanks Arash! This is good news that is fully preventable now that Moe knows that his camera is fine.